From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S2weL-0004Oo-Rm for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 01 Mar 2012 03:25:50 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 84483E09B1; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 03:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f181.google.com (mail-gx0-f181.google.com [209.85.161.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6EEE07CD for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2012 03:24:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggni4 with SMTP id i4so52989ggn.40 for ; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 19:24:33 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdalek1967@gmail.com designates 10.236.46.193 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.236.46.193; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdalek1967@gmail.com designates 10.236.46.193 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdalek1967@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=rdalek1967@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.236.46.193]) by 10.236.46.193 with SMTP id r41mr4248797yhb.123.1330572273773 (num_hops = 1); Wed, 29 Feb 2012 19:24:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=efli1zThmUax6Tw1Mzq+exvDD0Xo2X0exkRu8EZVQkQ=; b=KyhIfcZYV2Btq7zK68xuy7WFpO86O8KQ3/JBTbBaVwIt83LkdQnJQTRmJ3pz6qmVz3 HoT05wass1K4TtJ2AVVuogoGAQZVKfpcxd2MeLCYB5koc/Ghng8uoNUyR3DmnQ1Mm7yK vPar1jYacDAmc+0Wzs+hXvPq499s79tFLx0DU= Received: by 10.236.46.193 with SMTP id r41mr3340917yhb.123.1330572273738; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 19:24:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-122-135.jan.bellsouth.net. [65.0.122.135]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q14sm908347anj.9.2012.02.29.19.24.31 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 29 Feb 2012 19:24:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F4EEBE9.9050509@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 21:24:25 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120218 Firefox/10.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.7.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] portage updates References: <20120223131601.158ccfd7@khamul.example.com> <20120229172750.60e1a20c@weird.wonkology.org> <201202292010.01755.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <201202292033.34002.irgunII@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201202292033.34002.irgunII@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: f8630831-5037-47d1-9b5b-2ffb80482ea1 X-Archives-Hash: 1f361cdf0365a570963795f948cb614c John wrote: > > Wouldn't this particular topic be best answered by the dev's of said file systems and > what, if any, fragmentation etc, could and can and will happen with the different > arguments ie -m 0, etc.? All it is now between everyone discussing this here in a Gentoo > list is more or less conjecture, at least what I've read from most posts. Wouldn't the > people who make up, design and take care of the file systems in discussion be the best > ones to simply ask? > > Not meaning to 'end' the discussion, just curious as to why no one has gone to those who > would know best and brought it up and seeked out the answer(s) from them instead of people > who only can guesstimate here. So don't get mad, get glad, heh heh. > > I think one reason may be this, there are people on this list that have more experience than a lot of devs. By that, I mean real life experience. Sometimes what devs expect doesn't actually happen in real life situations. For example, when testing a file system and how it frags, large files, small files or medium size files? Are these files changing or once saved they never change? So, sometimes asking a person who actually uses something can have better advice than the person that created it. Just saying. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"