From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S1Fz3-0007rx-0g for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:40:13 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 279C1E097C; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:40:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f53.google.com (mail-yw0-f53.google.com [209.85.213.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61915E0AF8 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:39:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhjj72 with SMTP id j72so112629yhj.40 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 03:39:05 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdalek1967@gmail.com designates 10.236.197.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.236.197.41; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdalek1967@gmail.com designates 10.236.197.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdalek1967@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=rdalek1967@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.236.197.41]) by 10.236.197.41 with SMTP id s29mr11430707yhn.7.1330169945985 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 25 Feb 2012 03:39:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1StN8J0B5haDnSX6Wf1MaUph/In8zuRES2dwedQwZ30=; b=NEvrh0RrZXBCyzAcK8PXEAWbua/6RtGWDx4H+zJnKyWj8usEI/qmoLk6TBVlVmvROy zWqZI6gALYwdB1/zKjzWcVjni0y+KXLR0RQnVfZedLgxl78OUFPg4iKk+FsAqmdNQRBJ 4huW3kI6quvIIQdGVqMz6YGxIqK4z2KyaAwVE= Received: by 10.236.197.41 with SMTP id s29mr8574152yhn.7.1330169945937; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 03:39:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-116-97.jan.bellsouth.net. [65.0.116.97]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o41sm20510655yhj.7.2012.02.25.03.39.03 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 25 Feb 2012 03:39:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F48C84C.9050700@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 05:38:52 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120218 Firefox/10.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.7.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources menuconfig feature/weirdness References: <4F45F490.2020504@waagmeester.co.za> <201202230826.00642.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <4F45FE1F.9070006@waagmeester.co.za> <20120223091734.2aa3d6d0@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <4F461983.8080100@waagmeester.co.za> <20120223130822.1a260044@khamul.example.com> <20120224221124.GB27406@badass.gateway.2wire.net> <20120224230238.03192b47@digimed.co.uk> <20120225015200.GA1513@badass.gateway.2wire.net> <4F48431F.10903@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 3318f2cf-5b46-422e-8a0f-c5032147b753 X-Archives-Hash: e36af068d51f4f28bfc8d905a496084a Pandu Poluan wrote: > > On Feb 25, 2012 9:16 AM, "Dale" > wrote: >> > ---->8snip > >> >> >> That is true BUT the docs are for 100% certainty. Well, 99% at least. >> They almost always have the safest way to do anything but not >> necessarily the most used way. There are lots of things I do >> differently from the docs and my system generally works fine, except for >> the little roaches that scurry about from time to time. >> >> If you want a drop dead, almost as sure as the Sun comes up in the East >> approach, go by the docs. If you want to save some time for most >> general usage, do it the way us goofy geeks do it. Some of us know some >> neat shortcuts. >> >> Dale >> > > I tend to do an 'eyeball dryrun' first: start tmux, create 2 'windows', > do make menuconfig of the older kernel in the first window, and start > make menuconfig in the second. I quickly compare the menu structure of > both to see where the implicit oldconfig might choke, do some research > if necessary, and make notes. > > Then, I exit the newer menuconfig and cp the older .config to the newer > src directory, and start make menuconfig again. I keep comparing what > I'm doing against what I've done in window #1. > > Never had a kernel upgrade failure this way -- touch wood! > > Rgds, > I have had only one doing it the quick way. When I did have a failure tho, I did like you do but in two windows of Konsole. One window on top and one on bottom. Just went section by section. Over the past 3 or so years, no problems and it only takes about 20 seconds. One thing tho, if it fails, it generally tells you it made a mess. Just delete the new config and start from scratch like above. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"