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[65.0.116.97]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o68sm7780823yhk.16.2012.02.23.16.34.36 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:34:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F46DB1B.8050403@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:34:35 -0600 From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120218 Firefox/10.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.7.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86 References: <CAGOe-ewZNouYDXg271WP+OxKfrGkjW0e1sWSE40aAk7MjRG-aw@mail.gmail.com> <20120222002227.GA3081@ca.inter.net> <20120223102240.GB6656@Gee-Mi-Ni.epfl.ch> <201202231044.51216.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <ji64f3$8de$1@dough.gmane.org> <4F469D8D.5000809@gmail.com> <ji676t$vc3$1@dough.gmane.org> In-Reply-To: <ji676t$vc3$1@dough.gmane.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: e0376a01-7162-4fad-a866-e93d8f4c56a7 X-Archives-Hash: 5d1e993a338ac4481a33af41b3068815 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 23/02/12 22:11, Dale wrote: >> Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>> On 23/02/12 12:44, Mick wrote: >>>> On Thursday 23 Feb 2012 10:22:40 Willie WY Wong wrote: >>>> >>>> The irony is that older boxen which would benefit most from building >>>> from >>>> source are constrained in resources to achieve this and have to >>>> resort to >>>> installing bin packages. >>> >>> I doubt that the bin package will be slower than the one compiled from >>> source. I predict the reverse, in fact. The bin package will perform >>> better. >>> >>> Why don't you test it with an online browser benchmark? You can >>> quickpkg the current installed version, emerge the -bin version. You >>> can later emerge -C the -bin version and emerge -K the one you >>> quickpkg'ed. >> >> I try to avoid pre-compiled software for the opposite reason of what you >> think. What makes you think that software designed and compiled to >> utilize all the good parts of my system would run slower than a software >> designed to run on any CPU/hardware out there? This is the first time I >> ever saw anyone make this claim. Can you shed some light on this? > > Already did in my other post. > > Also, your assumption is wrong. Binary packages are not designed to run > on any CPU and hardware out there. They are designed to run on specific > architectures, and with a minimum requirement of some specific CPU. > firefox-bin will certainly not run on a PPC or MIPS machine running > Linux, for example. > > > Actually, I can install the same binaries on a AMD machine, a Intel based machine and they work. Thing is, on my machine, I enable MARCH=native and everything is compiled for my CPU. Since I have AMD, they may not run or may be buggy if ran on a Intel machine. That's what I have always been told. Have I been told the wrong thing for the last 8 or 9 years? Am I right in reading as the rest is Firefox specific? Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"