From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RymKs-0001Fv-Rd for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:36:31 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4341DE0E17; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:36:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gy0-f181.google.com (mail-gy0-f181.google.com [209.85.160.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CF3E0D66 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ghrr17 with SMTP id r17so2682519ghr.40 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 07:34:39 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdalek1967@gmail.com designates 10.101.10.25 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.101.10.25; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdalek1967@gmail.com designates 10.101.10.25 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdalek1967@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=rdalek1967@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.101.10.25]) by 10.101.10.25 with SMTP id n25mr3100422ani.52.1329579279500 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 18 Feb 2012 07:34:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=fqDlHVAz2u6Nvet/r9gH1OWLieiVInbtQ+Pc3vc+w1Y=; b=s6N1bqB6PvDqurHVmDvNYt7rZdY0UYNJE6lat7lh3H4T+vmCR7RLD8KrvMtfFB7E3d Tw+IBAggqMkdlIkv2NL2bxYogOcZsG0KqfTjUh4IQ09MYry9UkLQC0O2whaEiHDF3v4o P45pLsUTJByYeAy9vv6DnnNpNZwqo1519YPEk= Received: by 10.101.10.25 with SMTP id n25mr2367194ani.52.1329579279446; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 07:34:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-98-95-147-47.jan.bellsouth.net. [98.95.147.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a47sm31322881yhj.12.2012.02.18.07.34.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 18 Feb 2012 07:34:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F3FC50B.3010001@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 09:34:35 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120218 Firefox/10.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.7.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT: Any truth to this mess? References: <4F3F7CBA.9020600@gmail.com> <20120218124409.43286f16@khamul.example.com> <4F3F92C0.3060506@gmail.com> <1971113.3a2zZ3o5ps@localhost> <4F3F9BFF.9070104@gmail.com> <20120218164058.65c82d3d@khamul.example.com> In-Reply-To: <20120218164058.65c82d3d@khamul.example.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 52daeba4-d649-421a-8940-722e748ec5e1 X-Archives-Hash: bd43ad9e48856cf131a070086ff6af1a Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 06:39:27 -0600 > Dale wrote: > >> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>> Am Samstag, 18. Februar 2012, 06:00:00 schrieb Dale: >> >>>> >>>> I don't really think they can unless they just cut power to all the >>>> computers. After all, the internet is supposed to be redundant >>>> right? If there is a few computers still running that have a >>>> connection, it is still working. Sort of anyway. >>>> >>>> Does make one wonder tho. They have been talking about having a >>>> internet "off switch" but I'm not sure it would be that easy. >>> >>> basically, yes. Take down the core routers and backbones and >>> everything falls apart. >>> >> >> But how long would it take to actually do this? >> >> Another thing, the Government, especially the military, uses the >> internet too. > > Not quite. They use the same internet *technology* you do, not > necessarily the same internet *devices*. > > What about banks? Credit cards? Heck, even food stamp cards? Would phones work? I'm not just thinking about Vonage or Skype either. When you think about all this stuff, it could get scary. If the internet went down, even by accident somehow, what all would we lose and not realize it? Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"