[gentoo-user] [OT] (A nice illustration of Gentoo)

[gentoo-user] [OT] (A nice illustration of Gentoo)

[Pandu Poluan]

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Found this blogpost serendipitously:

http://mark.orbum.net/2011/11/15/the-pan-pipes-of-gentoo-linux-always-at-the-source/

so, are we brothers? :-)

Rgds,

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] (A nice illustration of Gentoo)

[Mark Knecht]

Great post. Thanks for sharing it for me to read under the stars at 4AM.

On 2/15/12, Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info> wrote:
> Found this blogpost serendipitously:
>
> http://mark.orbum.net/2011/11/15/the-pan-pipes-of-gentoo-linux-always-at-the-source/
>
> so, are we brothers? :-)
>
> Rgds,
>

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] (A nice illustration of Gentoo)

[mike]

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On 02/15/2012 05:58 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote:
> Found this blogpost serendipitously:
> 
> http://mark.orbum.net/2011/11/15/the-pan-pipes-of-gentoo-linux-always-at-the-source/
> 
> so, are we brothers? :-)
> 

But, but... you don't _need_ an initrd to have root on LVM!  You just
need LVM built-in and GRUB 2!

*ducks*

	--- Mike

-- 
A man who reasons deliberately, manages it better after studying Logic
than he could before, if he is sincere about it and has common sense.
                                   --- Carveth Read, “Logic”


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] (A nice illustration of Gentoo)

[Pandu Poluan]

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On Feb 15, 2012 9:45 PM, "mike@trausch.us" <mike@trausch.us> wrote:
>
> On 02/15/2012 05:58 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote:
> > Found this blogpost serendipitously:
> >
> >
http://mark.orbum.net/2011/11/15/the-pan-pipes-of-gentoo-linux-always-at-the-source/
> >
> > so, are we brothers? :-)
> >
>
> But, but... you don't _need_ an initrd to have root on LVM!  You just
> need LVM built-in and GRUB 2!
>
> *ducks*
>

Eh? You don't need to duck from me... I am one of those guys who are
against initrd/initramfs :-P

That said, anyone read his description of other distros? Somehow I got the
vibes that Gentoo's is the one where he didn't explicitly point out
something bad against; only a lamentation that he really don't want to
spend too much time compiling everything.

The blog writer's closing paragraph is very poetic it hurts; for I'm about
to leave my beloved Gentoo servers behind...

Rgds,

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] (A nice illustration of Gentoo)

[mike]

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On 02/15/2012 11:07 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote:
> Eh? You don't need to duck from me... I am one of those guys who are
> against initrd/initramfs :-P

I hate extra cogs in the system.  Simpler is better!

> That said, anyone read his description of other distros? Somehow I got
> the vibes that Gentoo's is the one where he didn't explicitly point out
> something bad against; only a lamentation that he really don't want to
> spend too much time compiling everything.

That seems to be the general gist, yes.

> The blog writer's closing paragraph is very poetic it hurts; for I'm
> about to leave my beloved Gentoo servers behind...

I am actually considering using Gentoo on servers, myself.  I've been
using it on my desktop for a while.  The only thing that I am really
concerned about is that if I do use it on servers, I'm going to have to
find some way to gain better control over the local Portage tree.

What I really ought to be doing is looking at Portage way closer than I
do as an everyday user.  I just want to be absolutely sure that I don't
break anything on a server when I update.  But since I have recently
learned about and started learning Puppet, I think I might have a much
easier time mitigating the risks of change by having an environment that
is defined not in terms of the underlying distribution, but in terms of
the requirements of the servers.

	--- Mike

-- 
A man who reasons deliberately, manages it better after studying Logic
than he could before, if he is sincere about it and has common sense.
                                   --- Carveth Read, “Logic”


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] (A nice illustration of Gentoo)

[Peter Humphrey]

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On Thursday 16 February 2012 04:07:38 Pandu Poluan wrote:

> I am one of those guys who are against initrd/initramfs :-P

Congratulations! The first correct use of "one of those who" I've seen in 
several years. If only Americans would speak English!

I'll subside back into obscurity now...

-- 
Rgds
Peter		Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] (A nice illustration of Gentoo)

[Pandu Poluan]

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On Feb 17, 2012 8:16 AM, "Peter Humphrey" <peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> wrote:
>
> On Thursday 16 February 2012 04:07:38 Pandu Poluan wrote:
>
>
>
> > I am one of those guys who are against initrd/initramfs :-P
>
>
>
> Congratulations! The first correct use of "one of those who" I've seen in
several years. If only Americans would speak English!
>

???

I'm not aware that there can be a 'wrong' usage of "one of those who"...

(Gosh; this thread is so meta...)

Rgds,

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] (A nice illustration of Gentoo)

[Marc Joliet]

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Am Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:29:40 +0700
schrieb Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info>:

> On Feb 17, 2012 8:16 AM, "Peter Humphrey" <peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thursday 16 February 2012 04:07:38 Pandu Poluan wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > I am one of those guys who are against initrd/initramfs :-P
> >
> >
> >
> > Congratulations! The first correct use of "one of those who" I've seen in
> several years. If only Americans would speak English!
> >
> 
> ???
> 
> I'm not aware that there can be a 'wrong' usage of "one of those who"...

I think he means "one of those who *are*" vs. "one of those who *is*".
 
> (Gosh; this thread is so meta...)
> 
> Rgds,


-- 
Marc Joliet
--
"People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we
don't" - Bjarne Stroustrup

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] (A nice illustration of Gentoo)

[Pandu Poluan]

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On Feb 17, 2012 6:10 PM, "Marc Joliet" <marcec@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> Am Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:29:40 +0700
> schrieb Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info>:
>
> > On Feb 17, 2012 8:16 AM, "Peter Humphrey" <peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org>
wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thursday 16 February 2012 04:07:38 Pandu Poluan wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I am one of those guys who are against initrd/initramfs :-P
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Congratulations! The first correct use of "one of those who" I've
seen in
> > several years. If only Americans would speak English!
> > >
> >
> > ???
> >
> > I'm not aware that there can be a 'wrong' usage of "one of those who"...
>
> I think he means "one of those who *are*" vs. "one of those who *is*".
>
> > (Gosh; this thread is so meta...)
> >
> > Rgds,
>
>

Ah, I see...

So that proves that Gentoo is indeed a mets-distribution...

... even the mailing list is a meta-mailing list :-D

Rgds,

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] (A nice illustration of Gentoo)

[Frank Steinmetzger]

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On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:07:30PM +0100, Marc Joliet wrote:
> Am Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:29:40 +0700
> schrieb Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info>:
> 
> > On Feb 17, 2012 8:16 AM, "Peter Humphrey" <peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thursday 16 February 2012 04:07:38 Pandu Poluan wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I am one of those guys who are against initrd/initramfs :-P
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Congratulations! The first correct use of "one of those who" I've seen in
> > several years. If only Americans would speak English!
> > >
> > 
> > ???
> > 
> > I'm not aware that there can be a 'wrong' usage of "one of those who"...
> 
> I think he means "one of those who *are*" vs. "one of those who *is*".

Actually, the *is* variant would be (syntactically) correct, too.  In that case
he would be "you know, just one of those guys", who coincidentally is also
against initrd/initramfs.
Gosh, don't you just love languages and their syntax. :o)
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] (A nice illustration of Gentoo)

[Mark Knecht]

On 2/16/12, Peter Humphrey <peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> wrote:
> On Thursday 16 February 2012 04:07:38 Pandu Poluan wrote:
>
>> I am one of those guys who are against initrd/initramfs :-P
>
> Congratulations! The first correct use of "one of those who" I've seen in
> several years. If only Americans would speak English!
>
> I'll subside back into obscurity now...
>
> --
> Rgds
> Peter		Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23


(LOL)

The language is English. We speak American. You speak British?!? ;)
>

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] (A nice illustration of Gentoo)

[Hari Purnama]

On 02/15/12 17:58, Pandu Poluan wrote:
>
> Found this blogpost serendipitously:
>
> http://mark.orbum.net/2011/11/15/the-pan-pipes-of-gentoo-linux-always-at-the-source/
>
> so, are we brothers? :-)
>
> Rgds,
>
brothers in deed.. :)
btw, met siang om pandu..

-- 
Regards, 
Hari Purnama