[gentoo-user] older machine and video packages

[gentoo-user] older machine and video packages

[Dale]

Howdy,

On my older x86 machine, I get this when trying to update:

WARNING: One or more updates have been skipped due to a dependency conflict:

x11-base/xorg-server:0

  (x11-base/xorg-server-1.11.2-r2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
conflicts with
    <x11-base/xorg-server-1.11 required by
(x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-173.14.31::gentoo, installed)


I thought maybe I needed to unmask or remove the keyword at first so I
wanted to see what version I could fiddle with to get this to work.  So,
I get this:

root@smoker / # equery list -p x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers
 * Searching for nvidia-drivers in x11-drivers ...
[-P-] [  ] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-96.43.20:0
[IP-] [  ] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-173.14.31:0
[-P-] [M ] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-275.09.07:0
[-P-] [M~] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-275.28:0
[-P-] [M~] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-275.36:0
[-P-] [M ] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-285.05.09-r1:0
[-P-] [M~] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-290.06:0
[-P-] [M ] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-290.10:0
[-P-] [M~] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-290.10-r1:0
root@smoker / # equery list -p x11-base/xorg-server
 * Searching for xorg-server in x11-base ...
[-P-] [  ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.9.5-r1:0
[IP-] [  ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.10.4-r1:0
[-P-] [ ~] x11-base/xorg-server-1.11.2-r1:0
[-P-] [  ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.11.2-r2:0
[-P-] [ ~] x11-base/xorg-server-1.11.3:0
[-P-] [ ~] x11-base/xorg-server-1.11.4:0
[-P-] [M~] x11-base/xorg-server-1.11.99.902:0
root@smoker / #


So, the nvidia driver I am using is the only version for my card.  But I
can't upgrade xorg either.  Well, I think this may be a bug or
something.  What does the list think?  Is there a way around this?

Thanks much.

Dale

:-)  :-)

P. S.  That time of year.  May be a bit before I get to read replies.

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Re: [gentoo-user] older machine and video packages

[Frank Steinmetzger]

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On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 07:37:05PM -0600, Dale wrote:

> Howdy,
> 
> On my older x86 machine, I get this when trying to update:
> 
> WARNING: One or more updates have been skipped due to a dependency conflict:
> 
> x11-base/xorg-server:0
> 
>   (x11-base/xorg-server-1.11.2-r2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
> conflicts with
>     <x11-base/xorg-server-1.11 required by
> (x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-173.14.31::gentoo, installed)

I, too, can't upgrade to the newer xorg-server; due to a known bug, the
nvidia-driver 290 doesn't recognise my 7600 Go, so I have to stick with 279
for the time being.

You could try nouveau. The setup isn't really difficult, you get better 2D
performance, adequate 3D performance, plus KMS support (which means high TTY
resolution without (u)vesafb, and thus no more problems when switching between
X and TTY). I would like to use it more often, if it wouldn't leave me with a
black screen after waking up from standby.
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Re: [gentoo-user] older machine and video packages

[Willie Matthews]

On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:37:05 -0600
Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> Howdy,
> 
> On my older x86 machine, I get this when trying to update:
> 
> WARNING: One or more updates have been skipped due to a dependency
> conflict:
> 
> x11-base/xorg-server:0
> 
>   (x11-base/xorg-server-1.11.2-r2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
> conflicts with
>     <x11-base/xorg-server-1.11 required by
> (x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-173.14.31::gentoo, installed)
> 
> 
> I thought maybe I needed to unmask or remove the keyword at first so I
> wanted to see what version I could fiddle with to get this to work.
> So, I get this:
> 
> root@smoker / # equery list -p x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers
>  * Searching for nvidia-drivers in x11-drivers ...
> [-P-] [  ] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-96.43.20:0
> [IP-] [  ] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-173.14.31:0
> [-P-] [M ] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-275.09.07:0
> [-P-] [M~] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-275.28:0
> [-P-] [M~] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-275.36:0
> [-P-] [M ] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-285.05.09-r1:0
> [-P-] [M~] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-290.06:0
> [-P-] [M ] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-290.10:0
> [-P-] [M~] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-290.10-r1:0
> root@smoker / # equery list -p x11-base/xorg-server
>  * Searching for xorg-server in x11-base ...
> [-P-] [  ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.9.5-r1:0
> [IP-] [  ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.10.4-r1:0
> [-P-] [ ~] x11-base/xorg-server-1.11.2-r1:0
> [-P-] [  ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.11.2-r2:0
> [-P-] [ ~] x11-base/xorg-server-1.11.3:0
> [-P-] [ ~] x11-base/xorg-server-1.11.4:0
> [-P-] [M~] x11-base/xorg-server-1.11.99.902:0
> root@smoker / #
> 
> 
> So, the nvidia driver I am using is the only version for my card.
> But I can't upgrade xorg either.  Well, I think this may be a bug or
> something.  What does the list think?  Is there a way around this?
> 
> Thanks much.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)
> 
> P. S.  That time of year.  May be a bit before I get to read replies.
> 

Same issue with an 8400GS. I played with it and couldn't get it to work
at all together. I think I uninstalled the nVidia driver upgraded and
tried to reinstall the nVidia driver. No luck. Wouldn't recognize the
card properly! Been awhile but I think that was it!



-- 

Willie Matthews
matthews.willie@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] older machine and video packages

[mike]

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On 02/14/2012 08:37 PM, Dale wrote:
> On my older x86 machine, I get this when trying to update:
> 
> WARNING: One or more updates have been skipped due to a dependency conflict:
> 
> x11-base/xorg-server:0
> 
>   (x11-base/xorg-server-1.11.2-r2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
> conflicts with
>     <x11-base/xorg-server-1.11 required by
> (x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-173.14.31::gentoo, installed)

The only way that you'll be able to resolve this is to remove the
nvidia-drivers package and switch to Nouveau.  If Nouveau works with
your graphics chipset, it is win-win, since that driver is maintained in
the kernel tree.  Otherwise, keep checking to see if it becomes supported.

You can work around it by masking ">x11-base/xorg-server-1.11", but that
will (eventually) begin to cause problems as the rest of the system
evolves around it.

Is 173.14.xx the last driver that supports your card, or will any newer
one support your card?  Which chipset is your card using?

	--- Mike

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Re: [gentoo-user] older machine and video packages

[Dale]

mike@trausch.us wrote:
> On 02/14/2012 08:37 PM, Dale wrote:
>> On my older x86 machine, I get this when trying to update:
>>
>> WARNING: One or more updates have been skipped due to a dependency conflict:
>>
>> x11-base/xorg-server:0
>>
>>   (x11-base/xorg-server-1.11.2-r2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
>> conflicts with
>>     <x11-base/xorg-server-1.11 required by
>> (x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-173.14.31::gentoo, installed)
> 
> The only way that you'll be able to resolve this is to remove the
> nvidia-drivers package and switch to Nouveau.  If Nouveau works with
> your graphics chipset, it is win-win, since that driver is maintained in
> the kernel tree.  Otherwise, keep checking to see if it becomes supported.
> 
> You can work around it by masking ">x11-base/xorg-server-1.11", but that
> will (eventually) begin to cause problems as the rest of the system
> evolves around it.
> 
> Is 173.14.xx the last driver that supports your card, or will any newer
> one support your card?  Which chipset is your card using?
> 
> 	--- Mike
> 



Hmmm, right now I just masked the upgrade.  Maybe it will get fixed
soon.  I sort of like the nvidia drivers.  They generally just work for
me.

Thanks for all the replies tho.  At least I know it is not just me.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] older machine and video packages

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 04:01:04 -0600, Dale wrote:

> Hmmm, right now I just masked the upgrade.  Maybe it will get fixed
> soon. 

Don't hold you breath. Your card is no longer supported, that's why you
have to use an old driver, and the old drivers just don't work with the
later Xorg.

> I sort of like the nvidia drivers.  They generally just work for
> me.

For gradually decreasing values of generally.


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Re: [gentoo-user] older machine and video packages

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 04:01:04 -0600, Dale wrote:
> 
>> Hmmm, right now I just masked the upgrade.  Maybe it will get fixed
>> soon. 
> 
> Don't hold you breath. Your card is no longer supported, that's why you
> have to use an old driver, and the old drivers just don't work with the
> later Xorg.
> 
>> I sort of like the nvidia drivers.  They generally just work for
>> me.
> 
> For gradually decreasing values of generally.
> 
> 


Well, right now, I just use it to run folding which heats a room with
freezers in it.  Yea, freezers can get to cold.  The oil in the
compressors get to thick and it burns out the compressor.  Anyway, I
just ssh in and don't even really need X at all.

Maybe I will switch soon.  Someday when I feel more up to it.

Dale

:-)  :-)

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