[gentoo-user] OT: urlview+Firefox 9 not co-operating

[gentoo-user] OT: urlview+Firefox 9 not co-operating

[Walter Dnes]

  After the upgrade to Firefox 9, urlview no longer works.  I get a
dialog box with...

========================================================================
Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window,
you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restrt your system.
========================================================================

  The 2 uncommented lines in ~/.urlview are...

REGEXP ((https?|ftp|gopher)[.:][^ >"\t]*|www[0-9]?\.[-a-z0-9.]+)[^ .,;\t>">\):]
COMMAND /usr/bin/firefox -P default -new-window "%s"

  What am I doing wrong?

-- 
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: urlview+Firefox 9 not co-operating

[Florian Philipp]

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Am 28.01.2012 08:44, schrieb Walter Dnes:
>   After the upgrade to Firefox 9, urlview no longer works.  I get a
> dialog box with...
> 
> ========================================================================
> Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window,
> you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restrt your system.
> ========================================================================
> 
>   The 2 uncommented lines in ~/.urlview are...
> 
> REGEXP ((https?|ftp|gopher)[.:][^ >"\t]*|www[0-9]?\.[-a-z0-9.]+)[^ .,;\t>">\):]
> COMMAND /usr/bin/firefox -P default -new-window "%s"
> 
>   What am I doing wrong?
> 

Add --no-remote to firefox's parameters.

Hope this helps,
Florian Philipp


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: urlview+Firefox 9 not co-operating

[Walter Dnes]

On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:08:12AM +0100, Florian Philipp wrote

> Add --no-remote to firefox's parameters.

  Something is badly broken here.  I still get the same error message.
Can someone post a working .urlview file?  The urlview man page talks
about a default /etc/urlview.conf, but there's no such file on my
system.

-- 
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: urlview+Firefox 9 not co-operating

[»Q«]

On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:35:46 -0500
"Walter Dnes" <waltdnes@waltdnes.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:08:12AM +0100, Florian Philipp wrote
> 
> > Add --no-remote to firefox's parameters.
        ^^
-no-remote
^

>   Something is badly broken here.  I still get the same error message.
> Can someone post a working .urlview file?  The urlview man page talks
> about a default /etc/urlview.conf, but there's no such file on my
> system.

Do you get the same error if you try

$ /usr/bin/firefox -P default -new-window "http://www.gentoo.org"

without using urlview?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: urlview+Firefox 9 not co-operating

[Walter Dnes]

On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 03:53:11PM -0600, ??Q?? wrote
> On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:35:46 -0500
> "Walter Dnes" <waltdnes@waltdnes.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:08:12AM +0100, Florian Philipp wrote
> > 
> > > Add --no-remote to firefox's parameters.
>         ^^
> -no-remote
> ^

  I did notice that, and tried it both ways.  No difference.

> Do you get the same error if you try
> 
> $ /usr/bin/firefox -P default -new-window "http://www.gentoo.org"
> 
> without using urlview?

  Yes and No!  I've solved the problem, but this is weird; really really
weird.  Let me explain.  I use ICEWM window manager.  For the firefox
launchbar command I have always used...

/usr/bin/firefox -width 950 -height 1050 -P default -no-remote

and manually opened new windows with {CTRL-N}.  Urlview was always able
to lauch a new window.  But now if one firefox window is opened with
"-no-remote", I can *NOT* programatically open any more new Firefox
windows.  That includes urlview and your commandline example *EVEN IF I
USE "-new-window" TO OPEN ADDITIONAL WINDOWS*.  Only the manual {CTRL-N}
command works.

  After some trial and error, I changed ICEWM's launchbar command to

/usr/bin/firefox -width 950 -height 1050 -P default -new-window

Now I can open new windows all over the place with Urlview and your
commandline example.  Problem solved.  ***ALWAYS USE "new-window"***.
Computers never cease to amaze me.  Can you pop open 2 xterms and try
the following?  The first pair should work...

in xterm 1 ==> /usr/bin/firefox -new-window "http://www.gentoo.org"
in xterm 2 ==> /usr/bin/firefox -new-window "http://www.cnn.com"

  Now close both Firefox windows and try...

in xterm 1 ==> /usr/bin/firefox -no-remote "http://www.gentoo.org"
in xterm 2 ==> /usr/bin/firefox -new-window "http://www.cnn.com"

  The first firefox opens, but the second one fails.

-- 
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: urlview+Firefox 9 not co-operating

[Florian Philipp]

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Am 29.01.2012 03:36, schrieb Walter Dnes:
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 03:53:11PM -0600, ??Q?? wrote
>> On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:35:46 -0500
>> "Walter Dnes" <waltdnes@waltdnes.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:08:12AM +0100, Florian Philipp wrote
>>>
>>>> Add --no-remote to firefox's parameters.
>>         ^^
>> -no-remote
>> ^
> 
>   I did notice that, and tried it both ways.  No difference.
> 
>> Do you get the same error if you try
>>
>> $ /usr/bin/firefox -P default -new-window "http://www.gentoo.org"
>>
>> without using urlview?
> 
>   Yes and No!  I've solved the problem, but this is weird; really really
> weird.  Let me explain.  I use ICEWM window manager.  For the firefox
> launchbar command I have always used...
> 
> /usr/bin/firefox -width 950 -height 1050 -P default -no-remote
> 
> and manually opened new windows with {CTRL-N}.  Urlview was always able
> to lauch a new window.  But now if one firefox window is opened with
> "-no-remote", I can *NOT* programatically open any more new Firefox
> windows.  That includes urlview and your commandline example *EVEN IF I
> USE "-new-window" TO OPEN ADDITIONAL WINDOWS*.  Only the manual {CTRL-N}
> command works.
> 
>   After some trial and error, I changed ICEWM's launchbar command to
> 
> /usr/bin/firefox -width 950 -height 1050 -P default -new-window
> 
> Now I can open new windows all over the place with Urlview and your
> commandline example.  Problem solved.  ***ALWAYS USE "new-window"***.
> Computers never cease to amaze me.  Can you pop open 2 xterms and try
> the following?  The first pair should work...
> 
> in xterm 1 ==> /usr/bin/firefox -new-window "http://www.gentoo.org"
> in xterm 2 ==> /usr/bin/firefox -new-window "http://www.cnn.com"
> 
>   Now close both Firefox windows and try...
> 
> in xterm 1 ==> /usr/bin/firefox -no-remote "http://www.gentoo.org"
> in xterm 2 ==> /usr/bin/firefox -new-window "http://www.cnn.com"
> 
>   The first firefox opens, but the second one fails.
> 

It kind-of makes sense. -no-remote apparently does not only deactivate
the "attach-to-other-process" functionality but also the
"be-ready-that-others-attach-to-you" function. So the second firefox
tries to attach to the first but that doesn't react, therefore it panics.

Regards,
Florian Philipp


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[gentoo-user] Re: OT: urlview+Firefox 9 not co-operating

[»Q«]

On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 21:36:26 -0500
"Walter Dnes" <waltdnes@waltdnes.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 03:53:11PM -0600, ??Q?? wrote
> > On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:35:46 -0500
> > "Walter Dnes" <waltdnes@waltdnes.org> wrote:
> >   
> > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:08:12AM +0100, Florian Philipp wrote
> > >   
> > > > Add --no-remote to firefox's parameters.  
> >         ^^
> > -no-remote
> > ^  
> 
>   I did notice that, and tried it both ways.  No difference.
> 
> > Do you get the same error if you try
> > 
> > $ /usr/bin/firefox -P default -new-window "http://www.gentoo.org"
> > 
> > without using urlview?  
> 
>   Yes and No!  I've solved the problem, but this is weird; really
> really weird.  Let me explain.  I use ICEWM window manager.  For the
> firefox launchbar command I have always used...
> 
> /usr/bin/firefox -width 950 -height 1050 -P default -no-remote
> 
> and manually opened new windows with {CTRL-N}.  Urlview was always
> able to lauch a new window.  But now if one firefox window is opened
> with "-no-remote", I can *NOT* programatically open any more new
> Firefox windows.
>
> *EVEN IF I USE "-new-window" TO OPEN ADDITIONAL WINDOWS*.  Only the
> manual {CTRL-N} command works.

You never should have been able to.  -no-remote was always supposed to
prevent that instance of a Mozilla app from listening to signals from
"remote" things like xterms or urlview.  The mystery here is how you
were able to do it before!

-no-remote has always been discouraged by the Mozilla folks.  It's
there so that devs can handle multiple Firefoxen (and Seamonkeys, &c.)
with multiple profiles without one clobbering another's profile.  (A
properly locked Firefox profile was what got you the "running but not
responding" message you were getting.)

>   After some trial and error, I changed ICEWM's launchbar command to
> 
> /usr/bin/firefox -width 950 -height 1050 -P default -new-window
> 
> Now I can open new windows all over the place with Urlview and your
> commandline example.  Problem solved.  ***ALWAYS USE "new-window"***.
> Can you pop open 2 xterms and try the following?  The first pair
> should work...
> 
> in xterm 1 ==> /usr/bin/firefox -new-window "http://www.gentoo.org"
> in xterm 2 ==> /usr/bin/firefox -new-window "http://www.cnn.com"
> 
>   Now close both Firefox windows and try...
> 
> in xterm 1 ==> /usr/bin/firefox -no-remote "http://www.gentoo.org"
> in xterm 2 ==> /usr/bin/firefox -new-window "http://www.cnn.com"
> 
>   The first firefox opens, but the second one fails.

You should get the same results if you drop the -new-window arguments.
-new-window and -new-tab just override Firefox's setting for how you
want new pages opened.

As long as you only have one Firefox profile, you can do away with the
-P default argument.  If there's a Firefox already running, it's
ignored anyway.