From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Rqqsk-0005Dd-Cw for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:50:42 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6827FE07CF; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:50:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com (out3-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2191E07AF for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:49:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.46]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C5AB20720 for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:49:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:49:26 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=binarywings.net; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; s=mesmtp; bh=lsPi8irWjW8dKuadsDiuGBET k94=; b=DACHK1oLYSteJkUAA6/rloQt0zSICXpvWbXG2TVRgyQO8Dd0fQHXQwH2 aPVLzapusngzAi3kFBbdI+o25Sua+UnLz+ic9XF3zmXUGsxMvcw+VQ6BTzy+Zo2O v9DKE2UBXXYMtq6KGuJPjQQdiFUThXpnhBVRehvTJZSn8zaQYG8= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; s=smtpout; bh=lsPi 8irWjW8dKuadsDiuGBETk94=; b=DkpWB05POvYpT9iD6Cw/V662jVxQquM+KfNA joxKpILj1hFmlrh5WU7deGbzCIOExImzEQK36sMZHLKQ6xvQNKumAD24ssbtXnAw ni7VbGxRL1gwAGyKC1AGnh8gJmkKFKRpCiOqTUs18ZKMDJwlJPTM8IOcsPQ4jbi3 hpmYcfI= X-Sasl-enc: OkDAIEYIANjRIo8MNf0lPzdkFC6j6lFVACF3BSLIv9Yd 1327690165 Received: from [192.168.5.18] (serv.binarywings.net [83.169.5.6]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49E82482581 for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:49:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4F22F1AA.4000500@binarywings.net> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:49:14 +0100 From: Florian Philipp User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20120114 Thunderbird/9.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes References: <4F20FDB1.1030100@gmail.com> <4F224AD2.2040103@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4F224AD2.2040103@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig0B94235F8709C1DA13F67262" X-Archives-Salt: bf5aedd8-a24c-4eea-b527-98f9069d3d79 X-Archives-Hash: 553d4d9384482f4b216fef24f7dcfd1c This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig0B94235F8709C1DA13F67262 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 27.01.2012 07:57, schrieb Dale: > Dale wrote: >> Hi list, >> >> I ran across this news item about Google: >> >> http://alturl.com/s7xi5 >> >> The long URL is below. I'm sort of getting to where I don't like Goog= le >> since they seem to be doing things that I'm just not comfy with. Next= >> they will want a camera on my rig so they can watch me surf. I found = a >> search engine that may work. It is here: >> >> www.ixquick.com >> >> Does anyone have a better search tool? I don't like Yahoo either. I = do >> like froogle so that would be a bonus. You know, shopping tool. >> [...] >=20 > OK. This has gotten a LOT of replies with lots of interesting info. I= > have another question along the same lines. What about using a VPN? I= > been messing with tor and Firefox but if I try to watch a video or > something that has any length to it, it gets rather iffy. I found this= : >=20 > www.vpn4all.com >=20 > I don't think it works with Linux but it was interesting to read about > just for the information. From my understanding, people can't read you= r > traffic and they can't tell anything about you as far as location. I > know google can do this because when I type in certain things, it all > comes up for local stuff. If I do the same in Firefox with tor turned > on, it gets rather weird. Stuff from Africa was showing up one time an= d > later on it looked like German stuff. When I checked my IP and did a > whois, it was in other countries. >=20 > What are thoughts on this sort of thing? Anything better than tor out > there? Am I getting paranoid or do people really watch us and collect > data on us? :/ >=20 > Dale >=20 > :-) :-) >=20 >=20 Well, to summarize it: It solves the following problems: - Your ISP cannot snoop or manipulate your traffic (useful for mobile connections which normally compress images, for example) - Your IP no longer maps directly to you - IP geolocation no longer works reliably It does not solve this problem: - Your browser+cookies still identify you It creates this new problem: - The VPN provider sees all your traffic and your IP (in this regard it is worse than Tor because with Tor, the endpoint sees your traffic and the start point your IP but neither sees both) Regards, Florian Philipp --------------enig0B94235F8709C1DA13F67262 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk8i8bAACgkQqs4uOUlOuU9QBwCfXSBjy/tKBzsBekbUnyjvLLjF ESgAnit6vuNoBKfzRs2mslcXY72Rksuy =Cz/y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig0B94235F8709C1DA13F67262--