From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RqTmN-0007hO-Iv for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:10:35 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5CE3EE0942; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:10:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com (out3-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541D3E0832 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:09:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111C220405 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 13:09:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend1.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 26 Jan 2012 13:09:25 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=binarywings.net; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; s=mesmtp; bh=bhH6Y18KDDqS3M8icScEN9rg QvM=; b=I503mCrvPHA5ag1RboRkWoIv8xMVThK7ceFRsznhx/O/loEf1nAI0Adg wyJBFU9dLmXdfPm43C5kwsbKfFBfGXAtZbgvUOJ0aarTS8WKCJdhQLvX5LiJ8jhY rtpB95SpI1af1f0ltrWYLM5MOIL8lN1HqGdFbLEJ8OtZIS47tqs= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; s=smtpout; bh=bhH6 Y18KDDqS3M8icScEN9rgQvM=; b=rLS4CH4Q3rkxBvrYxGV4ASLLElbXmHyqL2tE 6VXYCFES6ptw/3qErRYFlrhvRPYfYH3hvbjj8UBrnA1S5nAVkRaqPKBafzaIyyIs g/IZYAb5B4uV5+LAKiOzm4KkZMiCjPfuz5EAdmXFWfwSbVtFIRhoRXPr7HJt1FcP q0UklkA= X-Sasl-enc: WS9YE67lDzXEyv0j+dA5VO/d/L/AkVDapoRlMYw19yKR 1327601363 Received: from [192.168.5.18] (serv.binarywings.net [83.169.5.6]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 997C78E00F1 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2012 13:09:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4F2196CC.3090409@binarywings.net> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:09:16 +0100 From: Florian Philipp User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:9.0) Gecko/20120114 Thunderbird/9.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes References: <4F20FDB1.1030100@gmail.com> <87ipjyvogz.fsf@gmail.com> <201201261007.53041.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201201261007.53041.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF3627D25D1D594ADD97A23FD" X-Archives-Salt: 1073945f-8e33-4a91-b85f-127be05820e4 X-Archives-Hash: 1fdea68619702bfae98651032a4a15f3 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF3627D25D1D594ADD97A23FD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 26.01.2012 11:07, schrieb Mick: > On Thursday 26 Jan 2012 08:48:28 Michael Mathurin wrote: >> Dale writes: >>> Hi list, >>> >>> I ran across this news item about Google: >>> >>> http://alturl.com/s7xi5 >>> >>> The long URL is below. I'm sort of getting to where I don't like Goo= gle >>> since they seem to be doing things that I'm just not comfy with. Nex= t >>> they will want a camera on my rig so they can watch me surf. I found= a >>> search engine that may work. It is here: >>> >>> www.ixquick.com >>> >>> Does anyone have a better search tool? I don't like Yahoo either. I= do >>> like froogle so that would be a bonus. You know, shopping tool. >>> >>> Now to my next issue. I'm thinking about switching emails too. Yea,= >>> everyone on here knows my addy but I bet most can recognize my posts >>> anyway. Plus, if the init thingy goes south, well, it happens. Anywa= y, >>> what is a nice stable email account server that allows pop access, >>> Seamonkey as the email program, that is not tracking everything or no= sey >>> as heck? Free would be nice but I would pay something inexpensive on= a >>> yearly basis if it is really good. I think Yahoo has this but ain't >>> they sort of like Google already? Plus, I'm not sure how much longer= >>> Yahoo is going to last or make similar changes itself. I'm sort of >>> getting tired of switching emails every time I switch ISPs or there i= s a >>> policy change. That is why I switched to gmail in the first place. = No >>> matter what ISP I use, I can still use Gmail. Yet, here I am again. >>> >>> Thoughts? Suggestions? >>> >>> Dale >>> >>> :-) :-) >>> >>> Long URL just in case the shorty above doesn't work. It may be broke= n >>> tho. Copy and paste alert. >>> >>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/google-tracks-consu= mers >>> -across-products-users-cant-opt-out/2012/01/24/gIQArgJHOQ_story.html?= wpis >>> rc=3Dal_comboNE_b >> >> For an alternative search engine you should have a look at DuckDuckGo >> I've used it in the past and it has a pretty impressive set of >> features. As for e-mail I've heard good things about FastMail. Hushmai= l >> used to be a good one but I'm not sure how they stand today. >=20 > I've used Fastmail for years and is a very reliable email provider. It= does=20 > not have the storage allowance of Gmail on its free account, so space w= ill run=20 > out unless you start deleting messages. Also, unless you pay you are o= nly=20 > allowed to access messages via webmail and IMAP4, not POP3. There are = options=20 > for webmail scrapers or archiving of messages via mail clients, but Fas= tmail=20 > is not Google in terms of access options and features. +1 for Fastmail. I guess the "add free" service for 5 bucks per year would be sufficient for Dale as he doesn't need much online space when he uses POP3, anyway. >=20 > BTW, it seems to me that if you access youtube and at the same time sea= rch=20 > Google without being logged in to any of their portals, they will not b= e=20 > tracking your email for user profiling purposes. They may be logging I= P=20 > addresses but it could be different users on the same IP address, so=20 > advertising results would not be relevant. >=20 > Delete flash and normal cookies, do not log in to any Google sites and = you=20 > should be as good with their tracking of your habits as you always were= =2E >=20 This made me thinking: Does anyone out there use different browsers for different services? Like using Chrome only for GMail, Youtube and G+, Opera for Facebook and Firefox for normal browsing? I guess you could achieve the same using different user profiles. For example `firefox --no-remote -P google` and `firefox --no-remote -P default`. 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