From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RoASc-0006zk-4o for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 09:08:39 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F21DAE08C0; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 09:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f181.google.com (mail-gx0-f181.google.com [209.85.161.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA901E096A for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 09:07:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnv2 with SMTP id v2so159605ggn.40 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 01:07:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=U7q3PtruUXNK3nAcK1EJmN/wRZjCjj1o0p5PoQJL/jQ=; b=RJvxeiyRUC+93dE4W9KuyI2FdsffUIYgzgWBUwRjCW0nMct/5n1nfL/BHz+2zJW1+B f4opDg/6IWK2iNf99jUcglCHJo0JJpjDB++Gwl+Z3sTeKOoLuxvrQegawABPPiOhu4TW NNLDchdr0BLpbvCl/025C/Mu7buyoor+PieHI= Received: by 10.236.189.105 with SMTP id b69mr11645735yhn.90.1327050441388; Fri, 20 Jan 2012 01:07:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-98-95-147-47.jan.bellsouth.net. [98.95.147.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v40sm4150712yhh.15.2012.01.20.01.07.19 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 20 Jan 2012 01:07:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F192EC6.3030300@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 03:07:18 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20120120 Firefox/9.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.6.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Portage option "--changed-use" not working? References: <4F1898FF.1070106@gmail.com> <4F18AFBE.4000403@gmail.com> <4F18C57A.1020701@gmail.com> <4F18DEAB.4070003@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 72f46a4a-06a0-4c68-bc4a-309273451674 X-Archives-Hash: 21c537acccf14a0ec2b455199851fba6 Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > On 19 January 2012 19:25, Dale wrote: >> Hilco Wijbenga wrote: >>> On 19 January 2012 17:38, Dale wrote: >>>> Hilco Wijbenga wrote: >>>>> On 19 January 2012 16:05, Dale wrote: >>>>>> Well, the USE flag got changed. Isn't that what -N is supposed to do? >>>>> >>>>> -N == --newuse not --changed-use :-) >>>>> >>>>> It's exactly for this reason that I use --changed-use and not >>>>> --newuse. See the man page for the details. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Well, sort of seems like about the same. The dev changed the USE flag, >>>> it is changed, portage sees it was changed, portage wants to recompile >>>> it with the new/changed flags. >>>> >>>> I'm not exactly clear on the difference between newuse and changed-use. >>>> If you enable a USE flag, it is changed. If you disable a USE flag, it >>>> is changed. If a new flag comes along and it is different than the last >>>> install, then it can be either a new flag or a changed flag. It should >>>> recompile either way. >>> >>> The point here is that a USE flag was removed but it wasn't enabled >>> anyway. So no recompile necessary. Which is what --changed-use is >>> supposed to be for (as I understand the man page). >>> >>>> Maybe there is some subtle difference somewhere that I am missing. >>> >>> Which is why I included what it says in the man page and then referred >>> you to said man page... ;-) >>> >>> >> >> >> Well, when I did mine, it showed up as a change. It was in yellow. >> Maybe your system was different or something. > > Nope, same here. And obviously there was a change: a flag was removed. > But, again, my understanding of --changed-use (as opposed to --newuse) > is that it should have prevented the reinstall. > >> Most man pages are Greek. My Greek is not real good. > > :-) I don't think they're quite that bad although I agree that you > sometimes sort of already need to know where to look. > > Sometimes my problem is it is like shooting skeet, it's a moving target. Sometimes it moves pretty darn fast too. Zac adds it faster than I can keep up. I wish they would announce new stuff when it get released, both unstable and stable. Then again, maybe it moves so fast he can't keep up either. lol Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"