From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri5wN-00076i-8j for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 15:06:15 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AF30421C05B; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 15:06:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f53.google.com (mail-yw0-f53.google.com [209.85.213.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2DD21C05B for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2012 15:04:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhjj52 with SMTP id j52so10712335yhj.40 for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 07:04:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CPlua1juamobp8CcD69ErcNEu7AecGVt+MVA7R2Cgo0=; b=exEku2BqApMb2GwKJ/P+Hd8JWE/efDOAFkCQDjXZYvc0vVafRloao2bdno0vhl9rPb Cg27Z6rb5+kr49Cptz6VaBTZeYcMHQ557I/20XB+yUOunTqvWGwkO2HNe7RjU65q6HXN /rXtRYn45mAZlmPtJXBVI/OjhpxJzVQqKmkQo= Received: by 10.236.129.140 with SMTP id h12mr66398381yhi.47.1325603093694; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 07:04:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-65-42.jan.bellsouth.net. [65.0.65.42]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c44sm74764178yhm.5.2012.01.03.07.04.51 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 03 Jan 2012 07:04:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F031911.7000907@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:04:49 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111022 Firefox/7.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.4.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Beta test Gentoo with mdev instead of udev; version 3 References: <20111115062115.GA3262@waltdnes.org> <20111121104724.GC7461@waltdnes.org> <20111201194544.GD4455@waltdnes.org> <20120103100445.GD1961@waltdnes.org> <20120103123209.GB2410@nicolas-desktop> <20120103131346.GC2410@nicolas-desktop> <20120103143120.GF2410@nicolas-desktop> <20120103164317.51d681da@rohan.example.com> In-Reply-To: <20120103164317.51d681da@rohan.example.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 48b5635c-340f-449c-a826-84519ab97021 X-Archives-Hash: 070ea899b718cbec8d64dd5a4492a5fc Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 15:31:20 +0100 > Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > >>> Then again, using initramfs is yet-another-component waiting to >>> break. >>> >>> Knowing Murphy's Law, it will one day fuck up everything. >> And the mdev alternative won't follow this law? > > It's not immune to it, just statistically less likely to be affected. > > mdev sans initramfs is a less complex solution than udev plus > initramfs. Ergo, all other things being equal, less bits to break. > > Yep. I *think* I got a init thingy to work but I'm still not sure and apparently since there was no replies to my other thread, no one else knows either. From the messages in dmesg, it looks like I have tho. Thing is, if I reboot and the init fails, I have no real clue how to fix it. I know this because I ran into this same thing on Mandriva, along with the dependency problems that is well known. The fact that Gentoo has a simple booting process is what really got me interested in Gentoo. If we are going down this road, I may check and see if the dependency problems are fixed. As bad as it is to say, Gentoo is getting more like other distros that I left or didn't want to bother with. Makes me wonder. I know I am a unique old bird but I bet I am not alone in this. It sort of comes down to this, if I can't boot because of a broken init*, I may just save my /home and data drive and install something else. Just my $0.02 worth and it ain't worth more than that I'm sure. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"