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From: Michael Orlitzky <michael@orlitzky.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:33:31 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F01DC5B.3060808@orlitzky.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK2H+efr5RFzjJ8xSx4ObngyfGSDFHKmvwMdjtT5Vb-QkO-RdQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 01/02/2012 11:22 AM, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
> I'm not clear. You allow your server customers to modify your servers,
> or what, they asked you to install stuff and now you don't know which
> of them was needed and why? I'm just not clear.

They ask us to install stuff, and now we don't know which ones are needed.


> My basic response, again allowing that I don't run servers that have
> 'customers' on them, is that 'equery depends' is the basic path to
> determine if any of these are dependencies of other things in the
> world file. If they are then they themselves possibly don't need to be
> in the world file unless they meet my rule #2 as they are required for
> some sort of development work your customer does.
>
> I completely agree about travel time. My family lives 350 miles away.
> I've managed their machines for 10 years this way and only once had a
> problem that required me to get physical access. In the normal worst
> case I have a Live CD with a couple of instructions they can execute
> to get me back into the machine.

Well, travel time sucks too, but I was referring to time travel via e.g. 
a time machine, in case some wise guy tried to answer "well you 
shouldn't have done that." =)




  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-02 16:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-01 21:50 [gentoo-user] emerge --update behavior Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-01 22:06 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-01 22:13   ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-01 22:31     ` Dale
2012-01-01 22:40       ` Mark Knecht
2012-01-01 22:49         ` Dale
2012-01-01 22:54           ` Claudio Roberto França Pereira
2012-01-01 23:06             ` Dale
2012-01-01 23:07             ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-01 23:07         ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-01 23:22           ` Mark Knecht
2012-01-02 15:35             ` Tanstaafl
2012-01-02 15:47               ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 15:53               ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 16:01               ` Mark Knecht
2012-01-02 16:09                 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 16:16                   ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 16:20                     ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 23:33                       ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-03  0:01                         ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 16:33                     ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 17:06                       ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 17:39                         ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 17:45                           ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 17:55                             ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 18:07                               ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 18:20                                 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 20:50                               ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 21:08                                 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 21:25                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 21:33                                     ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 22:41                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 23:11                                         ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 23:29                                           ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-02 23:48                                             ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-03  7:46                                               ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-03 19:48                                                 ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-03  0:01                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 23:25                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-02 23:49                                     ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-03  0:04                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-03  0:22                                         ` Dale
2012-01-03  2:00                                           ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-03 13:00                                             ` Mick
2012-01-03  2:00                                         ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-03 11:09                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 17:47                           ` Mark Knecht
2012-01-02 17:55                             ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 17:58                             ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-03 14:05                               ` Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
2012-01-03 14:47                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-03 14:51                                   ` Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
2012-01-03 14:54                                 ` (Was) " Michael Mol
2012-01-03 14:55                                   ` Michael Mol
2012-01-03 16:00                                     ` Mick
2012-01-03 16:18                                       ` Michael Mol
2012-01-03 17:39                                         ` Mick
2012-01-03 17:43                                           ` Michael Mol
2012-01-03 17:52                                           ` Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
2012-01-03 18:12                                             ` Mick
2012-01-03 18:21                                               ` Michael Mol
2012-01-03 17:25                                       ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 21:11                       ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-02 21:18                         ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 21:28                           ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 21:37                             ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 21:34                           ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 21:48                             ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 21:58                               ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 22:13                                 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 22:45                                   ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 23:12                           ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-02 21:20                         ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 16:22                   ` Mark Knecht
2012-01-02 16:33                     ` Michael Orlitzky [this message]
2012-01-02 16:59                       ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 17:04                   ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 16:57               ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 17:29                 ` Mark Knecht
2012-01-02 17:47                   ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 20:48                   ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-03 11:49                     ` Tanstaafl
2012-01-03 12:04                       ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-04 11:57                         ` Pandu Poluan
2012-01-02 18:14               ` Graham Murray
2012-01-02  0:09           ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02  0:24             ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02  9:19               ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 10:06               ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-02 10:18                 ` Mick
2012-01-02 13:46                 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 15:31     ` Tanstaafl
2012-01-02 15:47       ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 15:47       ` Michael Mol
2012-01-01 22:12 ` Dale
2012-01-02  9:58   ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-02 10:19     ` Dale
2012-01-02 10:56       ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-02 11:06         ` Dale
2012-01-02 13:36           ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 13:50             ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 14:02               ` Neil Bothwick
2012-01-02 14:50                 ` Michael Mol
2012-01-02 15:05               ` Alan McKinnon
2012-01-02 15:26                 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 16:25                   ` Frank Steinmetzger
2012-01-02 16:34                     ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-01-02 18:38                       ` Dale

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