[gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Colleen Beamer]

Hi,

I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out
how to get it back.  I did google this, but didn't see anything
relevant.  Any ideas?

Thanks and Happy New Year.

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Michael Mol]

On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out
> how to get it back.  I did google this, but didn't see anything
> relevant.  Any ideas?
>
> Thanks and Happy New Year.
>
> Colleen

echo $PS1

If it's empty, you'll want to fix it in $HOME/.bashrc.

If you're not seeing *anything* when you type, I'd suggest checking
your configured color scheme.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Colleen Beamer]

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On 01/01/12 14:41, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Colleen Beamer
<colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out
>> how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything
>> relevant. Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks and Happy New Year.
>>
>> Colleen
>
> echo $PS1
>
> If it's empty, you'll want to fix it in $HOME/.bashrc.
>
> If you're not seeing *anything* when you type, I'd suggest checking
> your configured color scheme.
>
First, I exited out of kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1.  Doing echo $PS1, I
got output.

However, just to make sure you understand, in konsole, I get no command
prompt and can't type anything.

Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Michael Mol]

On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 01/01/12 14:41, Michael Mol wrote:
>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out
>>> how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything
>>> relevant. Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Thanks and Happy New Year.
>>>
>>> Colleen
>>
>> echo $PS1
>>
>> If it's empty, you'll want to fix it in $HOME/.bashrc.
>>
>> If you're not seeing *anything* when you type, I'd suggest checking
>> your configured color scheme.
>>
> First, I exited out of kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1.  Doing echo $PS1, I got
> output.
>
> However, just to make sure you understand, in konsole, I get no command
> prompt and can't type anything.

First guess would be checking your terminal profile settings for color scheme.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Colleen Beamer]

On 01/01/12 14:58, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 01/01/12 14:41, Michael Mol wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out
>>>> how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything
>>>> relevant. Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks and Happy New Year.
>>>>
>>>> Colleen
>>> echo $PS1
>>>
>>> If it's empty, you'll want to fix it in $HOME/.bashrc.
>>>
>>> If you're not seeing *anything* when you type, I'd suggest checking
>>> your configured color scheme.
>>>
>> First, I exited out of kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1.  Doing echo $PS1, I got
>> output.
>>
>> However, just to make sure you understand, in konsole, I get no command
>> prompt and can't type anything.
> First guess would be checking your terminal profile settings for color scheme.
>
I checked all the color schemes.  However, I doubt that it is that. 
Konsole was working - I was trying to get a previously created database
recognized in mysql and while I was going through the documentation,
konsole was working.  Now, all I get is a black square where my command
prompt should be.

Regards,

Colleen


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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Dale]

Colleen Beamer wrote:
> On 01/01/12 14:58, Michael Mol wrote:
>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Colleen Beamer<colleen.beamer@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> On 01/01/12 14:41, Michael Mol wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Colleen Beamer<colleen.beamer@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out
>>>>> how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything
>>>>> relevant. Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks and Happy New Year.
>>>>>
>>>>> Colleen
>>>> echo $PS1
>>>>
>>>> If it's empty, you'll want to fix it in $HOME/.bashrc.
>>>>
>>>> If you're not seeing *anything* when you type, I'd suggest checking
>>>> your configured color scheme.
>>>>
>>> First, I exited out of kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1.  Doing echo $PS1, I got
>>> output.
>>>
>>> However, just to make sure you understand, in konsole, I get no command
>>> prompt and can't type anything.
>> First guess would be checking your terminal profile settings for color scheme.
>>
> I checked all the color schemes.  However, I doubt that it is that.
> Konsole was working - I was trying to get a previously created database
> recognized in mysql and while I was going through the documentation,
> konsole was working.  Now, all I get is a black square where my command
> prompt should be.
>
> Regards,
>
> Colleen
>
>

It sounds like you have the text color and background color set to the 
same thing.  Basically, it's invisible.  I would go to Settings at the 
top then Configure Current Profile.  You should be able to change things 
under the Appearance tab.

Hope that helps.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Colleen Beamer]

On 01/01/12 15:46, Dale wrote:
> Colleen Beamer wrote:
>> On 01/01/12 14:58, Michael Mol wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Colleen
>>> Beamer<colleen.beamer@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>> On 01/01/12 14:41, Michael Mol wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Colleen
>>>>> Beamer<colleen.beamer@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't
>>>>>> figure out
>>>>>> how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything
>>>>>> relevant. Any ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks and Happy New Year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Colleen
>>>>> echo $PS1
>>>>>
>>>>> If it's empty, you'll want to fix it in $HOME/.bashrc.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're not seeing *anything* when you type, I'd suggest checking
>>>>> your configured color scheme.
>>>>>
>>>> First, I exited out of kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1.  Doing echo
>>>> $PS1, I got
>>>> output.
>>>>
>>>> However, just to make sure you understand, in konsole, I get no
>>>> command
>>>> prompt and can't type anything.
>>> First guess would be checking your terminal profile settings for
>>> color scheme.
>>>
>> I checked all the color schemes.  However, I doubt that it is that.
>> Konsole was working - I was trying to get a previously created database
>> recognized in mysql and while I was going through the documentation,
>> konsole was working.  Now, all I get is a black square where my command
>> prompt should be.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Colleen
>>
>>
>
> It sounds like you have the text color and background color set to the
> same thing.  Basically, it's invisible.  I would go to Settings at the
> top then Configure Current Profile.  You should be able to change
> things under the Appearance tab.

It's not this.  I have a black block cursor visible in the terminal,
just no command prompt and I can't type anything in konsole.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Michael Mol]

On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 01/01/12 15:46, Dale wrote:
>> Colleen Beamer wrote:
>>> On 01/01/12 14:58, Michael Mol wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Colleen
>>>> Beamer<colleen.beamer@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>> On 01/01/12 14:41, Michael Mol wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Colleen
>>>>>> Beamer<colleen.beamer@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't
>>>>>>> figure out
>>>>>>> how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything
>>>>>>> relevant. Any ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks and Happy New Year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Colleen
>>>>>> echo $PS1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it's empty, you'll want to fix it in $HOME/.bashrc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you're not seeing *anything* when you type, I'd suggest checking
>>>>>> your configured color scheme.
>>>>>>
>>>>> First, I exited out of kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1.  Doing echo
>>>>> $PS1, I got
>>>>> output.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, just to make sure you understand, in konsole, I get no
>>>>> command
>>>>> prompt and can't type anything.
>>>> First guess would be checking your terminal profile settings for
>>>> color scheme.
>>>>
>>> I checked all the color schemes.  However, I doubt that it is that.
>>> Konsole was working - I was trying to get a previously created database
>>> recognized in mysql and while I was going through the documentation,
>>> konsole was working.  Now, all I get is a black square where my command
>>> prompt should be.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Colleen
>>>
>>>
>>
>> It sounds like you have the text color and background color set to the
>> same thing.  Basically, it's invisible.  I would go to Settings at the
>> top then Configure Current Profile.  You should be able to change
>> things under the Appearance tab.
>
> It's not this.  I have a black block cursor visible in the terminal,
> just no command prompt and I can't type anything in konsole.

Out-of-left-field thought...did this happen when you upgraded from
3.0.6 to 3.1.6? I'm wondering if pty support might be broken on your
system due to some configuration issue.

What happens if you run xterm?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Colleen Beamer]

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On 01/01/12 16:15, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Colleen Beamer
<colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 01/01/12 15:46, Dale wrote:
>>> Colleen Beamer wrote:
>>>> On 01/01/12 14:58, Michael Mol wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Colleen
>>>>> Beamer<colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 01/01/12 14:41, Michael Mol wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Colleen
>>>>>>> Beamer<colleen.beamer@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't
>>>>>>>> figure out
>>>>>>>> how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything
>>>>>>>> relevant. Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks and Happy New Year.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Colleen
>>>>>>> echo $PS1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it's empty, you'll want to fix it in $HOME/.bashrc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you're not seeing *anything* when you type, I'd suggest checking
>>>>>>> your configured color scheme.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> First, I exited out of kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1. Doing echo
>>>>>> $PS1, I got
>>>>>> output.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, just to make sure you understand, in konsole, I get no
>>>>>> command
>>>>>> prompt and can't type anything.
>>>>> First guess would be checking your terminal profile settings for
>>>>> color scheme.
>>>>>
>>>> I checked all the color schemes. However, I doubt that it is that.
>>>> Konsole was working - I was trying to get a previously created database
>>>> recognized in mysql and while I was going through the documentation,
>>>> konsole was working. Now, all I get is a black square where my command
>>>> prompt should be.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Colleen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> It sounds like you have the text color and background color set to the
>>> same thing. Basically, it's invisible. I would go to Settings at the
>>> top then Configure Current Profile. You should be able to change
>>> things under the Appearance tab.
>>
>> It's not this. I have a black block cursor visible in the terminal,
>> just no command prompt and I can't type anything in konsole.
>
> Out-of-left-field thought...did this happen when you upgraded from
> 3.0.6 to 3.1.6? I'm wondering if pty support might be broken on your
> system due to some configuration issue.
>
> What happens if you run xterm?
>
>
In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a
command prompt and everything.   I had to install xterm, but on install
I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt.

Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Dale]

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Colleen Beamer wrote:
>
> In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a 
> command prompt and everything.   I had to install xterm, but on 
> install I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt.
>
> Regards,
>
> Colleen
>

Looks like something in Konsole broke.  If deleting the config files 
didn't fix it, I'd try a recompile and see if it helps.  Check your USE 
flags too just in case you notice something there that got changed.

Other than that, I'm not sure what else to try.  It works here and has 
been for a good while and I updated yesterday.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer:

> > What happens if you run xterm?
> 
> In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a
> command prompt and everything.   I had to install xterm, but on install
> I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt.


so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do you find 
anything in .xsession-errors?




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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Colleen Beamer]

On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
>
>>> What happens if you run xterm?
>> In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a
>> command prompt and everything.   I had to install xterm, but on install
>> I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt.
>
> so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do you find 
> anything in .xsession-errors?
>
Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt.

From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided, but
I have no idea how to go about fixing this:

konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a pseudo
teletype
konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow
control status, terminal not connected.
konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes.

Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 17:36:02 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
> On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
> >>> What happens if you run xterm?
> >> 
> >> In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a
> >> command prompt and everything.   I had to install xterm, but on install
> >> I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt.
> > 
> > so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do you
> > find anything in .xsession-errors?
> 
> Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt.
> 
> From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided, but
> I have no idea how to go about fixing this:
> 
> konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a pseudo
> teletype
> konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow
> control status, terminal not connected.
> konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes.

Bingo.

well, check that /dev/pts is mounted. Did you have any consolekit, udev, dbus 
updates? Are the permissions set correctly? have you recompiled kdelibs?

But this is exactly your problem - google for it. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Colleen Beamer]

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On 01/01/12 18:06, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 17:36:02 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
>> On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
>>>>> What happens if you run xterm?
>>>>
>>>> In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a
>>>> command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install
>>>> I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt.
>>>
>>> so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do you
>>> find anything in .xsession-errors?
>>
>> Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt.
>>
>> From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided, but
>> I have no idea how to go about fixing this:
>>
>> konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a pseudo
>> teletype
>> konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow
>> control status, terminal not connected.
>> konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes.
>
> Bingo.
>
> well, check that /dev/pts is mounted. Did you have any consolekit,
udev, dbus
> updates? Are the permissions set correctly? have you recompiled kdelibs?
>
> But this is exactly your problem - google for it.

No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending
my first message.  Will trying googling.  Thanks.

Colleen
>
>


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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 18:20:55 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
> On 01/01/12 18:06, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 17:36:02 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
> >> On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> >>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
> >>>>> What happens if you run xterm?
> >>>> 
> >>>> In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a
> >>>> command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install
> >>>> I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt.
> >>> 
> >>> so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do
> >>> you
> >>> find anything in .xsession-errors?
> >> 
> >> Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt.
> >> 
> >> From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided, but
> >> I have no idea how to go about fixing this:
> >> 
> >> konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a pseudo
> >> teletype
> >> konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow
> >> control status, terminal not connected.
> >> konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes.
> > 
> > Bingo.
> > 
> > well, check that /dev/pts is mounted. Did you have any consolekit,
> 
> udev, dbus
> 
> > updates? Are the permissions set correctly? have you recompiled kdelibs?
> > 
> > But this is exactly your problem - google for it.
> 
> No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending
> my first message.  Will trying googling.  Thanks.

is consolekit still running? does the problem persist after a reboot?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Colleen Beamer]

On 01/01/12 18:48, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 18:20:55 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
>> On 01/01/12 18:06, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 17:36:02 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
>>>> On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>>>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
>>>>>>> What happens if you run xterm?
>>>>>> In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a
>>>>>> command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install
>>>>>> I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt.
>>>>> so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do
>>>>> you
>>>>> find anything in .xsession-errors?
>>>> Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt.
>>>>
>>>> From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided, but
>>>> I have no idea how to go about fixing this:
>>>>
>>>> konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a pseudo
>>>> teletype
>>>> konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow
>>>> control status, terminal not connected.
>>>> konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes.
>>> Bingo.
>>>
>>> well, check that /dev/pts is mounted. Did you have any consolekit,
>> udev, dbus
>>
>>> updates? Are the permissions set correctly? have you recompiled kdelibs?
>>>
>>> But this is exactly your problem - google for it.
>> No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending
>> my first message.  Will trying googling.  Thanks.
> is consolekit still running? does the problem persist after a reboot?
>
>
Since my last response, I have checked that /dev/pts is mounted and it
is.  The console-kit-daemon appears to be running.  I checked
permissions of /dev/pts - they look okay, but I'm not sure what they
should be because I've never had an issue like this before.  This is
what they are:

total 0
drwxr-xr-x  2 root    root         0 Jan  1 17:06 .
drwxr-xr-x 17 root    root      4680 Jan  1 17:07 ..
crw-------  1 colleen colleen 136, 0 Jan  1 19:07 0

I have rebooted multiple times to no avail.

I also tried googling, but haven't found anything that made any sense to me.

Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 19:10:25 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
> On 01/01/12 18:48, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 18:20:55 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
> >> On 01/01/12 18:06, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> >>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 17:36:02 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
> >>>> On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> >>>>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
> >>>>>>> What happens if you run xterm?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a
> >>>>>> command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install
> >>>>>> I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do
> >>>>> you
> >>>>> find anything in .xsession-errors?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt.
> >>>> 
> >>>> From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided,
> >>>> but
> >>>> I have no idea how to go about fixing this:
> >>>> 
> >>>> konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a pseudo
> >>>> teletype
> >>>> konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow
> >>>> control status, terminal not connected.
> >>>> konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes.
> >>> 
> >>> Bingo.
> >>> 
> >>> well, check that /dev/pts is mounted. Did you have any consolekit,
> >> 
> >> udev, dbus
> >> 
> >>> updates? Are the permissions set correctly? have you recompiled kdelibs?
> >>> 
> >>> But this is exactly your problem - google for it.
> >> 
> >> No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending
> >> my first message.  Will trying googling.  Thanks.
> > 
> > is consolekit still running? does the problem persist after a reboot?
> 
> Since my last response, I have checked that /dev/pts is mounted and it
> is.  The console-kit-daemon appears to be running.  I checked
> permissions of /dev/pts - they look okay, but I'm not sure what they
> should be because I've never had an issue like this before.  This is
> what they are:
> 
> total 0
> drwxr-xr-x  2 root    root         0 Jan  1 17:06 .
> drwxr-xr-x 17 root    root      4680 Jan  1 17:07 ..
> crw-------  1 colleen colleen 136, 0 Jan  1 19:07 0
> 


should look like this:
ls -hl /dev/pts
insgesamt 0
crw--w---- 1 <user> tty 136, 0 30. Dez 21:37 0
crw------- 1   <user> tty 136, 1  2. Jan 01:20 1
crw------- 1  <user>  tty 136, 2  1. Jan 21:15 2
crw------- 1  <user> tty 136, 3  1. Jan 23:19 3
crw------- 1  <user> tty 136, 4  1. Jan 21:31 4

so the question is, where did it get borked. To clear something up, what did 
you emerge in the time before this happend? Also, useflags for kdelibs please.


> I have rebooted multiple times to no avail.

yeah because something sets the permissions wrong.

> 
> I also tried googling, but haven't found anything that made any sense to me.
> 

try googling pts permissions.

When you cat mtab, do you find something like this:
/etc/mtab:
devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620 0 0

is the devfs initscript run? does it look ok?
(having this:
devpts /dev/pts 0755 ,gid=5,mode=0620 devpts
)

-- 
#163933

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Colleen Beamer]

On 01/01/12 19:32, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 19:10:25 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
>> On 01/01/12 18:48, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 18:20:55 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
>>>> On 01/01/12 18:06, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>>>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 17:36:02 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
>>>>>> On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>>>>>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
>>>>>>>>> What happens if you run xterm?
>>>>>>>> In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a
>>>>>>>> command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on install
>>>>>>>> I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt.
>>>>>>> so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> find anything in .xsession-errors?
>>>>>> Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> I have no idea how to go about fixing this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a pseudo
>>>>>> teletype
>>>>>> konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow
>>>>>> control status, terminal not connected.
>>>>>> konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes.
>>>>> Bingo.
>>>>>
>>>>> well, check that /dev/pts is mounted. Did you have any consolekit,
>>>> udev, dbus
>>>>
>>>>> updates? Are the permissions set correctly? have you recompiled kdelibs?
>>>>>
>>>>> But this is exactly your problem - google for it.
>>>> No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending
>>>> my first message.  Will trying googling.  Thanks.
>>> is consolekit still running? does the problem persist after a reboot?
>> Since my last response, I have checked that /dev/pts is mounted and it
>> is.  The console-kit-daemon appears to be running.  I checked
>> permissions of /dev/pts - they look okay, but I'm not sure what they
>> should be because I've never had an issue like this before.  This is
>> what they are:
>>
>> total 0
>> drwxr-xr-x  2 root    root         0 Jan  1 17:06 .
>> drwxr-xr-x 17 root    root      4680 Jan  1 17:07 ..
>> crw-------  1 colleen colleen 136, 0 Jan  1 19:07 0
>>
>
> should look like this:
> ls -hl /dev/pts
> insgesamt 0
> crw--w---- 1 <user> tty 136, 0 30. Dez 21:37 0
> crw------- 1   <user> tty 136, 1  2. Jan 01:20 1
> crw------- 1  <user>  tty 136, 2  1. Jan 21:15 2
> crw------- 1  <user> tty 136, 3  1. Jan 23:19 3
> crw------- 1  <user> tty 136, 4  1. Jan 21:31 4
>
> so the question is, where did it get borked. To clear something up, what did 
> you emerge in the time before this happend? Also, useflags for kdelibs please.

I didn't emerge anything before this happened.

Use flags for kdelibs are as follows:

-3dnow
+acl
+alsa
-bindist
+bzip
-debug
-doc
-fam
+handbook
-jpeg2k
-kerberos
-lzma
+mmx
+nls
-openexr
+opengl
+policykit
-semantic-desktop
-spell
+sse
+sse2
+ssl
-test
+udev
+udisks
+upower
-zeroconf


>
>
>
> I also tried googling, but haven't found anything that made any sense to me.
>
> try googling pts permissions.
>
> When you cat mtab, do you find something like this:
> /etc/mtab:
> devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620 0 0
>
> is the devfs initscript run? does it look ok?
> (having this:
> devpts /dev/pts 0755 ,gid=5,mode=0620 devpts
This is the output from "cating" mtab:

rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0
proc /proc proc rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime 0 0
udev /dev tmpfs rw,nosuid,relatime,size=10240k,mode=755 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,relatime,mode=600 0 0
/dev/sda3 / ext3 rw,noatime,commit=0 0 0
rc-svcdir /lib64/rc/init.d tmpfs
rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=1024k,mode=755 0 0
fusectl /sys/fs/fuse/connections fusectl rw,relatime 0 0
shm /dev/shm tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime 0 0
/dev/sda1 /boot ext2 rw 0 0
/dev/sda4 /home ext3 rw,noatime,commit=0 0 0

Regards,

Colleen


-- 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 20:01:04 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
> On 01/01/12 19:32, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 19:10:25 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
> >> On 01/01/12 18:48, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> >>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 18:20:55 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
> >>>> On 01/01/12 18:06, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> >>>>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 17:36:02 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
> >>>>>> On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> >>>>>>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
> >>>>>>>>> What happens if you run xterm?
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a
> >>>>>>>> command prompt and everything. I had to install xterm, but on
> >>>>>>>> install
> >>>>>>>> I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages?
> >>>>>>> Do
> >>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>> find anything in .xsession-errors?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided,
> >>>>>> but
> >>>>>> I have no idea how to go about fixing this:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a
> >>>>>> pseudo
> >>>>>> teletype
> >>>>>> konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow
> >>>>>> control status, terminal not connected.
> >>>>>> konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Bingo.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> well, check that /dev/pts is mounted. Did you have any consolekit,
> >>>> 
> >>>> udev, dbus
> >>>> 
> >>>>> updates? Are the permissions set correctly? have you recompiled
> >>>>> kdelibs?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> But this is exactly your problem - google for it.
> >>>> 
> >>>> No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending
> >>>> my first message.  Will trying googling.  Thanks.
> >>> 
> >>> is consolekit still running? does the problem persist after a reboot?
> >> 
> >> Since my last response, I have checked that /dev/pts is mounted and it
> >> is.  The console-kit-daemon appears to be running.  I checked
> >> permissions of /dev/pts - they look okay, but I'm not sure what they
> >> should be because I've never had an issue like this before.  This is
> >> what they are:
> >> 
> >> total 0
> >> drwxr-xr-x  2 root    root         0 Jan  1 17:06 .
> >> drwxr-xr-x 17 root    root      4680 Jan  1 17:07 ..
> >> crw-------  1 colleen colleen 136, 0 Jan  1 19:07 0
> > 
> > should look like this:
> > ls -hl /dev/pts
> > insgesamt 0
> > crw--w---- 1 <user> tty 136, 0 30. Dez 21:37 0
> > crw------- 1   <user> tty 136, 1  2. Jan 01:20 1
> > crw------- 1  <user>  tty 136, 2  1. Jan 21:15 2
> > crw------- 1  <user> tty 136, 3  1. Jan 23:19 3
> > crw------- 1  <user> tty 136, 4  1. Jan 21:31 4
> > 
> > so the question is, where did it get borked. To clear something up, what
> > did you emerge in the time before this happend? Also, useflags for
> > kdelibs please.
> I didn't emerge anything before this happened.
> 
> Use flags for kdelibs are as follows:
> 
> -3dnow
> +acl
> +alsa
> -bindist
> +bzip
> -debug
> -doc
> -fam
> +handbook
> -jpeg2k
> -kerberos
> -lzma
> +mmx
> +nls
> -openexr
> +opengl
> +policykit
> -semantic-desktop
> -spell
> +sse
> +sse2
> +ssl
> -test
> +udev
> +udisks
> +upower
> -zeroconf
> 
> > I also tried googling, but haven't found anything that made any sense to
> > me.
> > 
> > try googling pts permissions.
> > 
> > When you cat mtab, do you find something like this:
> > /etc/mtab:
> > devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620 0 0
> > 
> > is the devfs initscript run? does it look ok?
> > (having this:
> > devpts /dev/pts 0755 ,gid=5,mode=0620 devpts
> 
> This is the output from "cating" mtab:
>
> devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,relatime,mode=600 0 0

now compare that with my line.

Then find out which script does it to you. Do you have a devpts entry in fstab?

Correct it, you are done.

And I should have gone to bed 4h ago. Old men need sleep (/me feels older than 
I am.)

-- 
#163933

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Mark Knecht]

On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
<SNIP>
>
> No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my
> first message.  Will trying googling.  Thanks.
>
>
> Colleen

Mysterious thread Colleen.

Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other
things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that?


Settings->Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font
size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font
is being used?

Good luck,
Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Mark Knecht]

On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
> <SNIP>
>>
>> No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my
>> first message.  Will trying googling.  Thanks.
>>
>>
>> Colleen
>
> Mysterious thread Colleen.
>
> Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other
> things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that?
>
>
> Settings->Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font
> size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font
> is being used?
>
> Good luck,
> Mark

Also, have you tried making a new user, logging that user in for the
first time and checking if konsole works correctly?

Possibly one of your .kde4 config files got messed up?

- Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:01:58 schrieb Mark Knecht:
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com>
> wrote: <SNIP>
> 
> > No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my
> > first message.  Will trying googling.  Thanks.
> > 
> > 
> > Colleen
> 
> Mysterious thread Colleen.
> 
> Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other
> things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that?
> 
> 
> Settings->Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font
> size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font
> is being used?
> 
> Good luck,
> Mark

it is not font related. the error from xsession-errors is pretty clear.

-- 
#163933

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Mark Knecht]

On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
<volkerarmin@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:01:58 schrieb Mark Knecht:
>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com>
>> wrote: <SNIP>
>>
>> > No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my
>> > first message.  Will trying googling.  Thanks.
>> >
>> >
>> > Colleen
>>
>> Mysterious thread Colleen.
>>
>> Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other
>> things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that?
>>
>>
>> Settings->Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font
>> size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font
>> is being used?
>>
>> Good luck,
>> Mark
>
> it is not font related. the error from xsession-errors is pretty clear.
>
> --
> #163933
>

I tend to agree Volker.

Collen - on my system the pts entries are part of the tty group:

mark@c2stable ~ $ ls -al /dev/pts/
total 0
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root      0 Jan  1 07:55 .
drwxr-xr-x 18 root root   5080 Jan  1 15:07 ..
crw--w----  1 mark tty  136, 0 Jan  1 09:58 0
crw-------  1 mark tty  136, 1 Jan  1 15:23 1
crw-------  1 mark tty  136, 2 Jan  1 16:31 2
mark@c2stable ~ $

Yours seemed to be assigned to you as a group and not tty.

- Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Michael Mol]

On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
> <volkerarmin@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:01:58 schrieb Mark Knecht:
>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com>
>>> wrote: <SNIP>
>>>
>>> > No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my
>>> > first message.  Will trying googling.  Thanks.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Colleen
>>>
>>> Mysterious thread Colleen.
>>>
>>> Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other
>>> things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that?
>>>
>>>
>>> Settings->Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font
>>> size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font
>>> is being used?
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>> Mark
>>
>> it is not font related. the error from xsession-errors is pretty clear.
>>
>> --
>> #163933
>>
>
> I tend to agree Volker.
>
> Collen - on my system the pts entries are part of the tty group:
>
> mark@c2stable ~ $ ls -al /dev/pts/
> total 0
> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root      0 Jan  1 07:55 .
> drwxr-xr-x 18 root root   5080 Jan  1 15:07 ..
> crw--w----  1 mark tty  136, 0 Jan  1 09:58 0
> crw-------  1 mark tty  136, 1 Jan  1 15:23 1
> crw-------  1 mark tty  136, 2 Jan  1 16:31 2
> mark@c2stable ~ $
>
> Yours seemed to be assigned to you as a group and not tty.

Then why would xterm work?


-- 
:wq

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Mark Knecht]

On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Michael Mol <mikemol@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
>> <volkerarmin@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:01:58 schrieb Mark Knecht:
>>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote: <SNIP>
>>>>
>>>> > No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my
>>>> > first message.  Will trying googling.  Thanks.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Colleen
>>>>
>>>> Mysterious thread Colleen.
>>>>
>>>> Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other
>>>> things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Settings->Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font
>>>> size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font
>>>> is being used?
>>>>
>>>> Good luck,
>>>> Mark
>>>
>>> it is not font related. the error from xsession-errors is pretty clear.
>>>
>>> --
>>> #163933
>>>
>>
>> I tend to agree Volker.
>>
>> Collen - on my system the pts entries are part of the tty group:
>>
>> mark@c2stable ~ $ ls -al /dev/pts/
>> total 0
>> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root      0 Jan  1 07:55 .
>> drwxr-xr-x 18 root root   5080 Jan  1 15:07 ..
>> crw--w----  1 mark tty  136, 0 Jan  1 09:58 0
>> crw-------  1 mark tty  136, 1 Jan  1 15:23 1
>> crw-------  1 mark tty  136, 2 Jan  1 16:31 2
>> mark@c2stable ~ $
>>
>> Yours seemed to be assigned to you as a group and not tty.
>
> Then why would xterm work?
>
>
> --
> :wq
>

Best I can tell here they are created and destroyed as konsole is
opened and closed. Open a bunch of konsoles and see for yourself.

Possibly konsole is now doing it wrong whereas xterm by itself is
doing it right?

 I dunno much. I dunno nut'un. I just dunno. :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 19:40:37 schrieb Michael Mol:
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
> > 
> > <volkerarmin@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:01:58 schrieb Mark Knecht:
> >>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer
> >>> <colleen.beamer@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote: <SNIP>
> >>> 
> >>> > No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending
> >>> > my
> >>> > first message.  Will trying googling.  Thanks.
> >>> > 
> >>> > 
> >>> > Colleen
> >>> 
> >>> Mysterious thread Colleen.
> >>> 
> >>> Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other
> >>> things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that?
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Settings->Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font
> >>> size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font
> >>> is being used?
> >>> 
> >>> Good luck,
> >>> Mark
> >> 
> >> it is not font related. the error from xsession-errors is pretty clear.
> >> 
> >> --
> >> #163933
> > 
> > I tend to agree Volker.
> > 
> > Collen - on my system the pts entries are part of the tty group:
> > 
> > mark@c2stable ~ $ ls -al /dev/pts/
> > total 0
> > drwxr-xr-x  2 root root      0 Jan  1 07:55 .
> > drwxr-xr-x 18 root root   5080 Jan  1 15:07 ..
> > crw--w----  1 mark tty  136, 0 Jan  1 09:58 0
> > crw-------  1 mark tty  136, 1 Jan  1 15:23 1
> > crw-------  1 mark tty  136, 2 Jan  1 16:31 2
> > mark@c2stable ~ $
> > 
> > Yours seemed to be assigned to you as a group and not tty.
> 
> Then why would xterm work?

because xterm does not touch anything in /dev/pts

xterm uses /dev/ptmx
konsole uses /dev/ptmx and /dev/pts/X
now look at the permissions of ptmx and pts/*

ls -lh /dev/ptmx
crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 5, 2  2. Jan 01:54 /dev/ptmx

and for pts I posted above/look at mark's output. Group setting is important.


-- 
#163933

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Colleen Beamer]

On 01/01/12 19:55, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 19:40:37 schrieb Michael Mol:
>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
>>>
>>> <volkerarmin@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:01:58 schrieb Mark Knecht:
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer
>>>>> <colleen.beamer@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote: <SNIP>
>>>>>
>>>>>> No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> first message.  Will trying googling.  Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Colleen
>>>>> Mysterious thread Colleen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other
>>>>> things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Settings->Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font
>>>>> size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font
>>>>> is being used?
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck,
>>>>> Mark
>>>> it is not font related. the error from xsession-errors is pretty clear.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> #163933
>>> I tend to agree Volker.
>>>
>>> Collen - on my system the pts entries are part of the tty group:
>>>
>>> mark@c2stable ~ $ ls -al /dev/pts/
>>> total 0
>>> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root      0 Jan  1 07:55 .
>>> drwxr-xr-x 18 root root   5080 Jan  1 15:07 ..
>>> crw--w----  1 mark tty  136, 0 Jan  1 09:58 0
>>> crw-------  1 mark tty  136, 1 Jan  1 15:23 1
>>> crw-------  1 mark tty  136, 2 Jan  1 16:31 2
>>> mark@c2stable ~ $
>>>
>>> Yours seemed to be assigned to you as a group and not tty.
>> Then why would xterm work?
> because xterm does not touch anything in /dev/pts
>
> xterm uses /dev/ptmx
> konsole uses /dev/ptmx and /dev/pts/X
> now look at the permissions of ptmx and pts/*
>
> ls -lh /dev/ptmx
> crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 5, 2  2. Jan 01:54 /dev/ptmx
>
> and for pts I posted above/look at mark's output. Group setting is important.
>
>
Okay, so how do I change the group for a character device?

Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Mark Knecht]

x
<SNIP>
>>
>>
> Okay, so how do I change the group for a character device?
>
> Regards,
>
> Colleen


mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/mtab | grep devpts
devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620 0 0
mark@c2stable ~ $

But I haven't a clue how, if you've done no updates, your init scripts
wouldn't be just like everyone else. (Assuming Volker's and mine are
the same which they seem to be...)

- Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Colleen Beamer]

On 01/01/12 20:13, Mark Knecht wrote:
> x
> <SNIP>
>>>
>> Okay, so how do I change the group for a character device?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Colleen
>
> mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/mtab | grep devpts
> devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620 0 0
> mark@c2stable ~ $
>
> But I haven't a clue how, if you've done no updates, your init scripts
> wouldn't be just like everyone else. (Assuming Volker's and mine are
> the same which they seem to be...)
>
> - Mark
>
>
Thanks all for the suggestions.  I'm going to leave this for tonight
'cause I am totally confused

Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Mark Knecht]

On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 01/01/12 20:13, Mark Knecht wrote:
>> x
>> <SNIP>
>>>>
>>> Okay, so how do I change the group for a character device?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Colleen
>>
>> mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/mtab | grep devpts
>> devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620 0 0
>> mark@c2stable ~ $
>>
>> But I haven't a clue how, if you've done no updates, your init scripts
>> wouldn't be just like everyone else. (Assuming Volker's and mine are
>> the same which they seem to be...)
>>
>> - Mark
>>
>>
> Thanks all for the suggestions.  I'm going to leave this for tonight
> 'cause I am totally confused
>
> Regards,
>
> Colleen
>
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>
>
On the off chance you missed a post-update message that came from (I
think) maybe a dbus update awhile back, try

emerge -1 gobject-introspection

and then restart dbus and/or reboot to test.

Have a good evening,
Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Colleen Beamer]

On 01/01/12 20:29, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 01/01/12 20:13, Mark Knecht wrote:
>>> x
>>> <SNIP>
>>>> Okay, so how do I change the group for a character device?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Colleen
>>> mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/mtab | grep devpts
>>> devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620 0 0
>>> mark@c2stable ~ $
>>>
>>> But I haven't a clue how, if you've done no updates, your init scripts
>>> wouldn't be just like everyone else. (Assuming Volker's and mine are
>>> the same which they seem to be...)
>>>
>>> - Mark
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks all for the suggestions.  I'm going to leave this for tonight
>> 'cause I am totally confused
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Colleen
>>
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>>
>>
> On the off chance you missed a post-update message that came from (I
> think) maybe a dbus update awhile back, try
>
> emerge -1 gobject-introspection
>
> and then restart dbus and/or reboot to test.
Tried this - all I got was an reinstallation of glibc and it didn't
solve the problem. 

Thanks,

Colleen


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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Mick]

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On Monday 02 Jan 2012 02:25:45 Colleen Beamer wrote:
> On 01/01/12 20:29, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> 
wrote:
> >> On 01/01/12 20:13, Mark Knecht wrote:
> >>> x
> >>> <SNIP>
> >>> 
> >>>> Okay, so how do I change the group for a character device?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> 
> >>>> Colleen
> >>> 
> >>> mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/mtab | grep devpts
> >>> devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620 0 0
> >>> mark@c2stable ~ $
> >>> 
> >>> But I haven't a clue how, if you've done no updates, your init scripts
> >>> wouldn't be just like everyone else. (Assuming Volker's and mine are
> >>> the same which they seem to be...)
> >>> 
> >>> - Mark
> >> 
> >> Thanks all for the suggestions.  I'm going to leave this for tonight
> >> 'cause I am totally confused
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> 
> >> Colleen
> >> 
> >> --
> >> 
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> >> http://counter.li.org
> > 
> > On the off chance you missed a post-update message that came from (I
> > think) maybe a dbus update awhile back, try
> > 
> > emerge -1 gobject-introspection
> > 
> > and then restart dbus and/or reboot to test.
> 
> Tried this - all I got was an reinstallation of glibc and it didn't
> solve the problem.

sys-apps/openrc installs the /etc/init.d/devfs script which as Volker has 
explained sets the /dev/pts ownership.

As long as Coleen has not set up the /devfs in her /etc/fstab a remerge of 
openrc followed by a reboot should put things into place.

Since there were no updates/upgrades immediately prior to this error, this 
could well have been a result of fs corruption, or memory problems.  It would 
make sense to check what smartctl -a /dev/sda shows just in case.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Colleen Beamer]

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On 01/02/12 04:57, Mick wrote:
> On Monday 02 Jan 2012 02:25:45 Colleen Beamer wrote:
>> On 01/01/12 20:29, Mark Knecht wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Colleen Beamer
<colleen.beamer@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>> On 01/01/12 20:13, Mark Knecht wrote:
>>>>> x
>>>>> <SNIP>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay, so how do I change the group for a character device?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Colleen
>>>>>
>>>>> mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/mtab | grep devpts
>>>>> devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620 0 0
>>>>> mark@c2stable ~ $
>>>>>
>>>>> But I haven't a clue how, if you've done no updates, your init scripts
>>>>> wouldn't be just like everyone else. (Assuming Volker's and mine are
>>>>> the same which they seem to be...)
>>>>>
>>>>> - Mark
>>>>
>>>> Thanks all for the suggestions. I'm going to leave this for tonight
>>>> 'cause I am totally confused
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Colleen
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter,
>>>> http://counter.li.org
>>>
>>> On the off chance you missed a post-update message that came from (I
>>> think) maybe a dbus update awhile back, try
>>>
>>> emerge -1 gobject-introspection
>>>
>>> and then restart dbus and/or reboot to test.
>>
>> Tried this - all I got was an reinstallation of glibc and it didn't
>> solve the problem.
>
> sys-apps/openrc installs the /etc/init.d/devfs script which as Volker has
> explained sets the /dev/pts ownership.
>
> As long as Coleen has not set up the /devfs in her /etc/fstab a remerge of
> openrc followed by a reboot should put things into place.
>
> Since there were no updates/upgrades immediately prior to this error, this
> could well have been a result of fs corruption, or memory problems. It
would
> make sense to check what smartctl -a /dev/sda shows just in case.

I'd be willing to try this, but what is smartctl a part of?

Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Michael Mol]

On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 01/02/12 04:57, Mick wrote:
>> On Monday 02 Jan 2012 02:25:45 Colleen Beamer wrote:
>>> On 01/01/12 20:29, Mark Knecht wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Colleen Beamer
>>>> <colleen.beamer@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> On 01/01/12 20:13, Mark Knecht wrote:
[snip]

>> Since there were no updates/upgrades immediately prior to this error, this
>> could well have been a result of fs corruption, or memory problems. It
>> would
>> make sense to check what smartctl -a /dev/sda shows just in case.
>
> I'd be willing to try this, but what is smartctl a part of?

"smartctl -a" asks the hard disk device for diagnostic information.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Colleen Beamer]

On 01/02/12 14:42, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 01/02/12 04:57, Mick wrote:
>>> On Monday 02 Jan 2012 02:25:45 Colleen Beamer wrote:
>>>> On 01/01/12 20:29, Mark Knecht wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Colleen Beamer
>>>>> <colleen.beamer@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On 01/01/12 20:13, Mark Knecht wrote:
> [snip]
>
>>> Since there were no updates/upgrades immediately prior to this error, this
>>> could well have been a result of fs corruption, or memory problems. It
>>> would
>>> make sense to check what smartctl -a /dev/sda shows just in case.
>> I'd be willing to try this, but what is smartctl a part of?
> "smartctl -a" asks the hard disk device for diagnostic information.
Yes, but when I ran 'smartctl -a /dev/sda' it tells me the command isn't
found.  I did a search for this command and it was found in
/usr/share/bash-completion/ but if I run it (and it is executable to
owner (root)), using the full path to the command, it tells me the
command isn't found.  I also tried creating a symlink to it in /usr/bin
and I get the message:
/usr/bin/smartctl: line 3: have: command not found.

Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Dale]

Colleen Beamer wrote:
> On 01/02/12 14:42, Michael Mol wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Colleen Beamer<colleen.beamer@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> On 01/02/12 04:57, Mick wrote:
>>>> On Monday 02 Jan 2012 02:25:45 Colleen Beamer wrote:
>>>>> On 01/01/12 20:29, Mark Knecht wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Colleen Beamer
>>>>>> <colleen.beamer@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 01/01/12 20:13, Mark Knecht wrote:
>> [snip]
>>
>>>> Since there were no updates/upgrades immediately prior to this error, this
>>>> could well have been a result of fs corruption, or memory problems. It
>>>> would
>>>> make sense to check what smartctl -a /dev/sda shows just in case.
>>> I'd be willing to try this, but what is smartctl a part of?
>> "smartctl -a" asks the hard disk device for diagnostic information.
> Yes, but when I ran 'smartctl -a /dev/sda' it tells me the command isn't
> found.  I did a search for this command and it was found in
> /usr/share/bash-completion/ but if I run it (and it is executable to
> owner (root)), using the full path to the command, it tells me the
> command isn't found.  I also tried creating a symlink to it in /usr/bin
> and I get the message:
> /usr/bin/smartctl: line 3: have: command not found.
>
> Regards,
>
> Colleen
>

emerge smartmontools

then when that is done, do this:

smartctl -t long /dev/sd<drive letter here>

When you do that, it should print a message that tells when the test 
will complete.  It is usually a 24 hour format thing too.  This can run 
while the drive is in use too.  Sometime after that time, run this command:

smartctl -l selftest /dev/sd<drive letter here>

That should tell you the results of the test.  If it says it passed, 
this is good.  If it reports a problem, well it is not good.  If you are 
lucky, it will be like a recent problem I had and reformatting will fix 
it.  It was a weird problem but beats replacing a drive.

Hope that helps.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Lorenzo Bandieri]

> emerge smartmontools
>
> then when that is done, do this:
>
> smartctl -t long /dev/sd<drive letter here>
>
> When you do that, it should print a message that tells when the test will
> complete.  It is usually a 24 hour format thing too.  This can run while the
> drive is in use too.  Sometime after that time, run this command:
>
> smartctl -l selftest /dev/sd<drive letter here>
>
> That should tell you the results of the test.  If it says it passed, this is
> good.  If it reports a problem, well it is not good.  If you are lucky, it
> will be like a recent problem I had and reformatting will fix it.  It was a
> weird problem but beats replacing a drive.
>

I'm just wondering: can a tool like strace (or similar) be helpul in
diagnose the problem?
Maybe it could detect if konsole is trying to access a file that has
too strict permissions, couldn't it? Just wondering, I never really
used strace.

Lorenzo

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am Dienstag, 3. Januar 2012, 11:26:54 schrieb Lorenzo Bandieri:
> > emerge smartmontools
> > 
> > then when that is done, do this:
> > 
> > smartctl -t long /dev/sd<drive letter here>
> > 
> > When you do that, it should print a message that tells when the test will
> > complete.  It is usually a 24 hour format thing too.  This can run while
> > the drive is in use too.  Sometime after that time, run this command:
> > 
> > smartctl -l selftest /dev/sd<drive letter here>
> > 
> > That should tell you the results of the test.  If it says it passed, this
> > is good.  If it reports a problem, well it is not good.  If you are
> > lucky, it will be like a recent problem I had and reformatting will fix
> > it.  It was a weird problem but beats replacing a drive.
> 
> I'm just wondering: can a tool like strace (or similar) be helpul in
> diagnose the problem?
> Maybe it could detect if konsole is trying to access a file that has
> too strict permissions, couldn't it? Just wondering, I never really
> used strace.
> 
> Lorenzo

a) we allready know where the problem hides - thanks to ~/.xession-errors your 
first stop when some X based app has problems.

b) strace will drown you in output.

c) in this case I have my doubts that the output would be helpfull at all 
(because I strace'd Konsole ;) )
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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Colleen Beamer]

On 01/02/12 22:19, Dale wrote:
> Colleen Beamer wrote:
>> On 01/02/12 14:42, Michael Mol wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Colleen
>>> Beamer<colleen.beamer@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>> On 01/02/12 04:57, Mick wrote:
>>>>> On Monday 02 Jan 2012 02:25:45 Colleen Beamer wrote:
>>>>>> On 01/01/12 20:29, Mark Knecht wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Colleen Beamer
>>>>>>> <colleen.beamer@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 01/01/12 20:13, Mark Knecht wrote:
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>>> Since there were no updates/upgrades immediately prior to this
>>>>> error, this
>>>>> could well have been a result of fs corruption, or memory
>>>>> problems. It
>>>>> would
>>>>> make sense to check what smartctl -a /dev/sda shows just in case.
>>>> I'd be willing to try this, but what is smartctl a part of?
>>> "smartctl -a" asks the hard disk device for diagnostic information.
>> Yes, but when I ran 'smartctl -a /dev/sda' it tells me the command isn't
>> found.  I did a search for this command and it was found in
>> /usr/share/bash-completion/ but if I run it (and it is executable to
>> owner (root)), using the full path to the command, it tells me the
>> command isn't found.  I also tried creating a symlink to it in /usr/bin
>> and I get the message:
>> /usr/bin/smartctl: line 3: have: command not found.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Colleen
>>
>
> emerge smartmontools
>
> then when that is done, do this:
>
> smartctl -t long /dev/sd<drive letter here>
>
> When you do that, it should print a message that tells when the test
> will complete.  It is usually a 24 hour format thing too.  This can
> run while the drive is in use too.  Sometime after that time, run this
> command:
>
> smartctl -l selftest /dev/sd<drive letter here>
>
> That should tell you the results of the test.  If it says it passed,
> this is good.  If it reports a problem, well it is not good.  If you
> are lucky, it will be like a recent problem I had and reformatting
> will fix it.  It was a weird problem but beats replacing a drive.

Thanks, Dale.  I'll try this.  Don't know if I'll get to it tonight ....
unfortunately, it was back to work to day and I have a bunch of stuff to
do tonight.

To everyone else, thanks ... I'll keep googling to see if I can figure
this out and I'll shout again if I need assistance.

Regards,

Colleen


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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 14:32:34 -0500, Colleen Beamer wrote:

> I'd be willing to try this, but what is smartctl a part of?

smartmontools


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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 20:05:04 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
> On 01/01/12 19:55, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 19:40:37 schrieb Michael Mol:
> >> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
> >>> 
> >>> <volkerarmin@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:01:58 schrieb Mark Knecht:
> >>>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer
> >>>>> <colleen.beamer@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote: <SNIP>
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to
> >>>>>> sending
> >>>>>> my
> >>>>>> first message.  Will trying googling.  Thanks.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Colleen
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Mysterious thread Colleen.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other
> >>>>> things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Settings->Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font
> >>>>> size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font
> >>>>> is being used?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Good luck,
> >>>>> Mark
> >>>> 
> >>>> it is not font related. the error from xsession-errors is pretty clear.
> >>>> 
> >>>> --
> >>>> #163933
> >>> 
> >>> I tend to agree Volker.
> >>> 
> >>> Collen - on my system the pts entries are part of the tty group:
> >>> 
> >>> mark@c2stable ~ $ ls -al /dev/pts/
> >>> total 0
> >>> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root      0 Jan  1 07:55 .
> >>> drwxr-xr-x 18 root root   5080 Jan  1 15:07 ..
> >>> crw--w----  1 mark tty  136, 0 Jan  1 09:58 0
> >>> crw-------  1 mark tty  136, 1 Jan  1 15:23 1
> >>> crw-------  1 mark tty  136, 2 Jan  1 16:31 2
> >>> mark@c2stable ~ $
> >>> 
> >>> Yours seemed to be assigned to you as a group and not tty.
> >> 
> >> Then why would xterm work?
> > 
> > because xterm does not touch anything in /dev/pts
> > 
> > xterm uses /dev/ptmx
> > konsole uses /dev/ptmx and /dev/pts/X
> > now look at the permissions of ptmx and pts/*
> > 
> > ls -lh /dev/ptmx
> > crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 5, 2  2. Jan 01:54 /dev/ptmx
> > 
> > and for pts I posted above/look at mark's output. Group setting is
> > important.
> Okay, so how do I change the group for a character device?

chown for the moment, and look at fstab - is there an entry? If not, 
/etc/init.d/devfs should do the mounting, does it look like this:
                "devpts /dev/pts 0755 ,gid=5,mode=0620 devpts" 
?

and what abot /dev/ptmx?
does it look like the line from me or is there some root root stuff going on? 
if the later chown that.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Colleen Beamer]

On 01/01/12 20:18, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 20:05:04 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
>> On 01/01/12 19:55, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 19:40:37 schrieb Michael Mol:
>>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
>>>>>
>>>>> <volkerarmin@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:01:58 schrieb Mark Knecht:
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer
>>>>>>> <colleen.beamer@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote: <SNIP>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to
>>>>>>>> sending
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> first message.  Will trying googling.  Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Colleen
>>>>>>> Mysterious thread Colleen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other
>>>>>>> things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Settings->Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font
>>>>>>> size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font
>>>>>>> is being used?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good luck,
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>> it is not font related. the error from xsession-errors is pretty clear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> #163933
>>>>> I tend to agree Volker.
>>>>>
>>>>> Collen - on my system the pts entries are part of the tty group:
>>>>>
>>>>> mark@c2stable ~ $ ls -al /dev/pts/
>>>>> total 0
>>>>> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root      0 Jan  1 07:55 .
>>>>> drwxr-xr-x 18 root root   5080 Jan  1 15:07 ..
>>>>> crw--w----  1 mark tty  136, 0 Jan  1 09:58 0
>>>>> crw-------  1 mark tty  136, 1 Jan  1 15:23 1
>>>>> crw-------  1 mark tty  136, 2 Jan  1 16:31 2
>>>>> mark@c2stable ~ $
>>>>>
>>>>> Yours seemed to be assigned to you as a group and not tty.
>>>> Then why would xterm work?
>>> because xterm does not touch anything in /dev/pts
>>>
>>> xterm uses /dev/ptmx
>>> konsole uses /dev/ptmx and /dev/pts/X
>>> now look at the permissions of ptmx and pts/*
>>>
>>> ls -lh /dev/ptmx
>>> crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 5, 2  2. Jan 01:54 /dev/ptmx
>>>
>>> and for pts I posted above/look at mark's output. Group setting is
>>> important.
>> Okay, so how do I change the group for a character device?
> chown for the moment, and look at fstab - is there an entry? If not, 
> /etc/init.d/devfs should do the mounting, does it look like this:
>                 "devpts /dev/pts 0755 ,gid=5,mode=0620 devpts" 
The associated line when you cat /etc/init.d/devfs on my system looks
exactly like the line above.
> ?
>
> and what abot /dev/ptmx?
> does it look like the line from me or is there some root root stuff going on? 
> if the later chown that.
If I do ls -lh /dev/ptmx, I get this output:
crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 5,2 Jan 1 21:36 ptmx

Regards,

Colleen
>


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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 21:44:08 -0500, Colleen Beamer wrote:

> > chown for the moment, and look at fstab - is there an entry? If not, 
> > /etc/init.d/devfs should do the mounting, does it look like this:
> >                 "devpts /dev/pts 0755 ,gid=5,mode=0620 devpts"   
> The associated line when you cat /etc/init.d/devfs on my system looks
> exactly like the line above.

What about fstab? An entry in there could override the openrc setting.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Mark Knecht]

On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 4:53 AM, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 21:44:08 -0500, Colleen Beamer wrote:
>
>> > chown for the moment, and look at fstab - is there an entry? If not,
>> > /etc/init.d/devfs should do the mounting, does it look like this:
>> >                 "devpts /dev/pts 0755 ,gid=5,mode=0620 devpts"
>> The associated line when you cat /etc/init.d/devfs on my system looks
>> exactly like the line above.
>
> What about fstab? An entry in there could override the openrc setting.
>
>
> --
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Good point, but how does that fstab entry appear if she hasn't done
updates? I suppose she might have been editing in fstab and made a
mistake? If she was editing she should certainly check it out.

Reading back through this thread I don't see whether Colleen tried my
suggestion about a creating a new user. My thought was that some KDE
config file somewhere got corrupted and a new user would not have that
same issue.

- Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 06:44:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

> >> The associated line when you cat /etc/init.d/devfs on my system looks
> >> exactly like the line above.  
> >
> > What about fstab? An entry in there could override the openrc setting.

> Good point, but how does that fstab entry appear if she hasn't done
> updates? I suppose she might have been editing in fstab and made a
> mistake? If she was editing she should certainly check it out.

I suspect Colleen did change something, but it didn't take effect until
a reboot. I've been caught like that before now, make a seemingly
insignificant change then get bitten a few weeks later when I reboot into
a new kernel and blame the kernel.

> Reading back through this thread I don't see whether Colleen tried my
> suggestion about a creating a new user. My thought was that some KDE
> config file somewhere got corrupted and a new user would not have that
> same issue.

I doubt it will make a difference in this case as it it down to
permissions in /etc, but it never hurts to try.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Colleen Beamer]

On 01/02/12 12:09, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 06:44:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>>>> The associated line when you cat /etc/init.d/devfs on my system looks
>>>> exactly like the line above.  
>>> What about fstab? An entry in there could override the openrc setting.
>> Good point, but how does that fstab entry appear if she hasn't done
>> updates? I suppose she might have been editing in fstab and made a
>> mistake? If she was editing she should certainly check it out.
I didn't do any edits to fstab - the file was the one I created on the
initial install on this computer a couple of months ago - computer is
reasonable new.
> I suspect Colleen did change something, but it didn't take effect until
> a reboot. I've been caught like that before now, make a seemingly
> insignificant change then get bitten a few weeks later when I reboot into
> a new kernel and blame the kernel.
The problem didn't have anything to do with a reboot.  I was trying to
get MySQL to recognize a database that I had created on my laptop and I
was following along with the documentation on the MySQL site.  I had
konsole open looking for stuff - I copied the database files that I
wanted to use in the location of the my.cnf file.  I noticed that I
didn't have konsole open at one point - thought that I had closed it and
when I started it up again, there was no prompt, only the black block
cursor.
>
>> Reading back through this thread I don't see whether Colleen tried my
>> suggestion about a creating a new user. My thought was that some KDE
>> config file somewhere got corrupted and a new user would not have that
>> same issue.
I did create a new user and it didn't help.  I've tried every suggestion
made in this thread to no avail.  For example, I changed the group of
/dev/pts to tty as others indicated that that was what it was supposed
to be.
>
> I doubt it will make a difference in this case as it it down to
> permissions in /etc, but it never hurts to try.
Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Colleen Beamer]

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On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com>wrote:

> On 01/02/12 12:09, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 06:44:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
>

<snip>


> >>> Reading back through this thread I don't see whether Colleen tried my
> >> suggestion about a creating a new user. My thought was that some KDE
> >> config file somewhere got corrupted and a new user would not have that
> >> same issue.
>


> I did create a new user and it didn't help.  I've tried every suggestion
> made in this thread to no avail.  For example, I changed the group of
> /dev/pts to tty as others indicated that that was what it was supposed
> to be.
>

I just noticed that despite the fact that I changed the group of /dev/pts
to tty (I did this as root), it didn't stick - it reverted back to
colleen.  So how do I fix this?

> >Regards,
>
> Colleen
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Michael Mol]

On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On 01/02/12 12:09, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> > On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 06:44:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>
> <snip>
>
>>
>> >>> Reading back through this thread I don't see whether Colleen tried my
>> >> suggestion about a creating a new user. My thought was that some KDE
>> >> config file somewhere got corrupted and a new user would not have that
>> >> same issue.
>
>
>>
>> I did create a new user and it didn't help.  I've tried every suggestion
>> made in this thread to no avail.  For example, I changed the group of
>> /dev/pts to tty as others indicated that that was what it was supposed
>> to be.
>
>
> I just noticed that despite the fact that I changed the group of /dev/pts to
> tty (I did this as root), it didn't stick - it reverted back to colleen.  So
> how do I fix this?

Is the consolekit USE flag enabled on your system?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Colleen Beamer]

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On 01/02/12 14:27, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Colleen Beamer
<colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 01/02/12 12:09, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 06:44:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
>>
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>>
>>>>>> Reading back through this thread I don't see whether Colleen tried my
>>>>> suggestion about a creating a new user. My thought was that some KDE
>>>>> config file somewhere got corrupted and a new user would not have that
>>>>> same issue.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I did create a new user and it didn't help. I've tried every suggestion
>>> made in this thread to no avail. For example, I changed the group of
>>> /dev/pts to tty as others indicated that that was what it was supposed
>>> to be.
>>
>>
>> I just noticed that despite the fact that I changed the group of
/dev/pts to
>> tty (I did this as root), it didn't stick - it reverted back to
colleen. So
>> how do I fix this?
>
> Is the consolekit USE flag enabled on your system?
Yes, it's part of my USE flags in make.conf.

Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Michael Mol]

On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 01/02/12 14:27, Michael Mol wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 01/02/12 12:09, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 06:44:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Reading back through this thread I don't see whether Colleen tried my
>>>>>> suggestion about a creating a new user. My thought was that some KDE
>>>>>> config file somewhere got corrupted and a new user would not have that
>>>>>> same issue.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I did create a new user and it didn't help. I've tried every suggestion
>>>> made in this thread to no avail. For example, I changed the group of
>>>> /dev/pts to tty as others indicated that that was what it was supposed
>>>> to be.
>>>
>>>
>>> I just noticed that despite the fact that I changed the group of /dev/pts
>>> to
>>> tty (I did this as root), it didn't stick - it reverted back to colleen.
>>> So
>>> how do I fix this?
>>
>> Is the consolekit USE flag enabled on your system?
> Yes, it's part of my USE flags in make.conf.

I'm not running consolekit here, but I suspect the ownership switching
you're seeing relates to either that or policykit (which I note in
your kdelibs USE flags).


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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 14:22:05 -0500, Colleen Beamer wrote:

> I just noticed that despite the fact that I changed the group
> of /dev/pts to tty (I did this as root), it didn't stick - it reverted
> back to colleen.  So how do I fix this?

/dev/pts is root:root here. The files within it are user:tty, but they
are neither group readable nor writeable, so the group ownership is
possibly not that relevant.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 22:59:01 +0000, Mick wrote:

> > /dev/pts is root:root here. The files within it are user:tty, but they
> > are neither group readable nor writeable, so the group ownership is
> > possibly not that relevant.  
> 
> Hmm ...
> 
> They are writeable here (with 1 urxvt running):
> 
> /dev/pts:
> total 0
> drwxr-xr-x  2 root    root      0 Jan  2 22:27 .
> drwxr-xr-x 15 root    root   3960 Jan  2 22:28 ..
> crw--w----  1 michael tty  136, 0 Jan  2 22:36 0
> crw--w----  1 michael tty  136, 1 Jan  2 22:51 1
> 
> and with without the writeable bit for group when I also fire a konsole:
> 
> $ ls -la /dev/pts
> total 0
> drwxr-xr-x  2 root    root      0 Jan  2 22:27 .
> drwxr-xr-x 15 root    root   3960 Jan  2 22:28 ..
> crw--w----  1 michael tty  136, 0 Jan  2 22:36 0
> crw--w----  1 michael tty  136, 1 Jan  2 22:52 1
> crw-------  1 michael tty  136, 2 Jan  2 22:55 2
> 
> So, the konsole seems to run with more restrictions than urxvt?

Yes. It was the Konsole ptys I was referring to.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am Montag, 2. Januar 2012, 14:22:05 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
> On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Colleen Beamer 
<colleen.beamer@gmail.com>wrote:
> > On 01/02/12 12:09, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 06:44:19 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
> <snip>
> 
> > >>> Reading back through this thread I don't see whether Colleen tried my
> > >> 
> > >> suggestion about a creating a new user. My thought was that some KDE
> > >> config file somewhere got corrupted and a new user would not have that
> > >> same issue.
> > 
> > I did create a new user and it didn't help.  I've tried every suggestion
> > made in this thread to no avail.  For example, I changed the group of
> > /dev/pts to tty as others indicated that that was what it was supposed
> > to be.
> 
> I just noticed that despite the fact that I changed the group of /dev/pts
> to tty (I did this as root), it didn't stick - it reverted back to
> colleen.  So how do I fix this?
> 
> > >Regards,
> > 
> > Colleen
> > 
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so devfs script is ok and runs on boot. consolekit also runs on boot. You 
could try and put a devpts line into fstab (please google it, I am too tired 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Colleen Beamer]

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On 01/01/12 19:01, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Colleen Beamer
<colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
> <SNIP>
>>
>> No updates - konsole was working less than 15 minutes prior to sending my
>> first message. Will trying googling. Thanks.
>>
>>
>> Colleen
>
> Mysterious thread Colleen.
>
> Possibly the font file itself is messed up? I See you've tried other
> things in the Konsole config. Maybe try that?
>
>
> Settings->Appearance and then near the bottom try changing the font
> size, checking and unchecking the Smooth fonts options, and which font
> is being used?

Tried this, but it didn't resolve the issue.  I also tried re-installing
kdelibs, which didn't resolve the issue either.  :-(

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Michael Mol]

On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 01/01/12 17:15, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>> Am Sonntag, 1. Januar 2012, 16:51:23 schrieb Colleen Beamer:
>>
>>>> What happens if you run xterm?
>>> In response, konsole was working just find earlier today - I had a
>>> command prompt and everything.   I had to install xterm, but on install
>>> I could run xterm and it provides me with a command prompt.
>>
>> so what happens when you start konsole out of xterm? Any messages? Do you find
>> anything in .xsession-errors?
>>
> Starting konsole out of xterm results in the same issue - no prompt.
>
> From .xsession-errors the following related to konsole was provided, but
> I have no idea how to go about fixing this:
>
> konsole(8283)/kdecore (KPty/K3Process) KPty::open: Can't open a pseudo
> teletype
> konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::flowControlEnabled: Unable to get flow
> control status, terminal not connected.
> konsole(8283) Konsole::Pty::start: Unable to set terminal attributes.

Since reboots don't fix it, it doesn't sound like a starvation issue.
Since your /dev/pts is mounted and seems to have useful permissions,
it doesn't sound like a permissions issue.
Since xterm works, it *definitely* shouldn't be a permissions issue
relating to ptys; I'd expect xterm would have had the same issue.

Still, with the error 'Can't open a pseudo teletype', code and
activity relating to ptys are where I'd keep looking.

If it were me, at this point I'd try running konsole under strace,
direct strace's output to a text file, and then grep that file for
anything relating to /dev/pts, look at the error codes (or
lackthereof, or lack of matching lines), and try figuring things out
from there.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Dale]

Colleen Beamer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out
> how to get it back.  I did google this, but didn't see anything
> relevant.  Any ideas?
>
> Thanks and Happy New Year.
>
> Colleen
>


Hmmm, are you talking some custom setup using 'PS1=' sort of thing?  
That is in:

/etc/bash/bashrc

For reference, I have this:

PS1='\[\033[01;31m\]\u@\h \[\033[01;34m\]\w \$ \[\033[00m\]'

and that gives me this:

root@fireball / #

The path is shown but I am at /.  That works the same on a console as it 
does on a Konsole.  Is that what you are talking about?  If it is, here 
is some neato info:

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-tip-prompt/

Dale

:-)  :-)

P. S.  Happy New Year ma'am.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Colleen Beamer]

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On 01/01/12 14:48, Dale wrote:
> Colleen Beamer wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out
>> how to get it back. I did google this, but didn't see anything
>> relevant. Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks and Happy New Year.
>>
>> Colleen
>>
>
>
> Hmmm, are you talking some custom setup using 'PS1=' sort of thing?
That is in:
>
> /etc/bash/bashrc
>
> For reference, I have this:
>
> PS1='\[\033[01;31m\]\u@\h \[\033[01;34m\]\w \$ \[\033[00m\]'
>
> and that gives me this:
>
> root@fireball / #
>
> The path is shown but I am at /. That works the same on a console as it
does on a Konsole. Is that what you are talking about? If it is, here is
some neato info:
>
> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-tip-prompt/
>
> Dale
>
> :-) :-)
>
> P. S. Happy New Year ma'am.
>
I can't type anything in the konsole window (in KDE).  When I exit kde
by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1 and type echo $PS1, I get output similar to what
you have posted above (PS1='\[\033[01;31m\]\u@\h \[\033[01;34m\]\w \$
\[\033[00m\]' ).  I don't recall exactly what my output is because the
only way I can get a command prompt is by exiting kde.

I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling konsole to no avail.

Regards,

Colleen

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[gentoo-user] Re: Konsole issue

[James]

Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer <at> gmail.com> writes:

> 
>     I can't type anything in the konsole window (in KDE).  When I exit
>     kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1 and type echo $PS1, I get output similar
>     to what you have posted above (PS1='\[\033[01;31m\]\u <at> \h
>     \[\033[01;34m\]\w \$ \[\033[00m\]' ).  I don't recall exactly what
>     my output is because the only way I can get a command prompt is by
>     exiting kde.


Hello Col.,

If you can get to the tab, in kde, just below the session, hit
the right mouse button and see what it shows. Mine is set up like this

Tab Title Format          %d : %n
Remote tab title format   %h : %u


hth,
James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Konsole issue

[Colleen Beamer]

On 01/01/12 15:09, James wrote:
> Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>>     I can't type anything in the konsole window (in KDE).  When I exit
>>     kde by pressing Ctrl-Alt-F1 and type echo $PS1, I get output similar
>>     to what you have posted above (PS1='\[\033[01;31m\]\u <at> \h
>>     \[\033[01;34m\]\w \$ \[\033[00m\]' ).  I don't recall exactly what
>>     my output is because the only way I can get a command prompt is by
>>     exiting kde.
>
> Hello Col.,
>
> If you can get to the tab, in kde, just below the session, hit
> the right mouse button and see what it shows. Mine is set up like this
>
> Tab Title Format          %d : %n
> Remote tab title format   %h : %u
I have the menubar in konsole so, I can edit the profile.  In "tabs",
mine displays exactly like yours.

Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Paul Hartman]

On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out
> how to get it back.  I did google this, but didn't see anything
> relevant.  Any ideas?

Make a backup of and then delete or rename the konsole config files in:

~/.kde4/share/config/konsolerc
~/.kde4/share/apps/konsole/*

Maybe something in there got hosed.

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole issue

[Colleen Beamer]

On 01/01/12 15:08, Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Colleen Beamer <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I seem to have lost the command prompt in konsole and can't figure out
>> how to get it back.  I did google this, but didn't see anything
>> relevant.  Any ideas?
> Make a backup of and then delete or rename the konsole config files in:
>
> ~/.kde4/share/config/konsolerc
> ~/.kde4/share/apps/konsole/*
>
> Maybe something in there got hosed.
>
>
Tried this.  Good idea, but it didn't solve the issue.  Darn, I *really*
thought this would work!  :-)

Regards,

Colleen

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