From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RgdJk-0007uN-FF for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:20:20 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2240221C123; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:20:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-tul01m020-f181.google.com (mail-tul01m020-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4685121C044 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:18:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbup6 with SMTP id up6so11731630obb.40 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 06:18:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oEgvBxUMDxc93xyiErZo5BCeY//+0OBUIMiX2BUU1XE=; b=pYshKe0Me014zIC7HfsQy/5wOxNFhZLBZKDou5OW+flzFhsiaxNRIvZ/7SuA3QSXhc KD5/C0CjwUh5ux41H+0/2/FfuUYaULrPVEqxZuafUtlFQ0YKPo5BZWCmUNnw9vUUjsSI jfk8Id75BAV4x7XrNDrYTrjEdXuxeSpJ5MMGs= Received: by 10.50.88.170 with SMTP id bh10mr45975371igb.8.1325254706593; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 06:18:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.9.92] ([76.236.174.54]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id rc7sm86066443igb.0.2011.12.30.06.18.24 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 30 Dec 2011 06:18:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EFDC829.10107@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:18:17 -0500 From: Michael Mol User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:9.0.1) Gecko/20111221 Firefox/9.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.6.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] The mess that's called KDEPIM 4.7 ... References: <201112290043.58106.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <4EFDB669.6090903@wonkology.org> <201112301345.25243.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201112301345.25243.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 1f0a2edb-4a31-461b-a27d-918b93caf30c X-Archives-Hash: d42b32cc21b1a8a49259daf5a153f17f Mick wrote: > On Friday 30 Dec 2011 13:02:33 Alex Schuster wrote: >> Mick writes: >>> For now I have masked KDEPIM 4.7 on all of my remaining boxen. This is >>> too messy to have to fix more than once, if I can fix it at all that is! >>> >>> The only thing that's keeping me from mutt is the zillion shortcut >>> commands that I need to learn ... old dog/new tricks and all that. >> >> Claws is okay, except that it does not work with maildirs, the is some >> import script or something to convert this to mbox format. >> Thunderbird also is a decent mail program. > > I have tried Claws (although I did not like mbox) and found myself cursing > after every other key press. I also tried T'bird and found it better than > Claws, but worse than Kmail. It's not just keyboard short cuts, but also how > it integrates with the address book, pgp and s/mime, etc. > > I started looking into getting used to mutt again. Not sure how I can modify > its shortcuts, because some them are not intuitive enough for me and some are > duplicated/redundant. On a Windows box where I need to be conscientious about memory usage, I've started using Seamonkey instead of Thunderbird+Chrome. If you can find Thunderbird tolerable, Seamonkey isn't far off. The browser side got some long-needed TLC earlier this year with the release of 2.5, so it's functional on the modern Internet. It still needs more work[1], but it handles most of my web needs, now. I haven't tried it on Gentoo yet, and I don't know if or when I will; none of my Gentoo boxes (four out of eight! Whee!) are low on memory yet. It also comes with an "address book" component that's somehow viewed on the same tier as its browser, email, calendar and IRC client component[2]...I'd guess it's worth a try, at least. [1] It's got some issues with blocking the UI thread on things that should be background operations, and it has some weird glitches when I load up GMail--which I only do for my address book there... [2] Seamonkey is the descendant of the old Mozilla suite. The IRC client is still called "Chatzilla". Perhaps there's a way to turn off the components you don't need in the ebuild.