[gentoo-user] recovering plain alsa [WAS:]: no sound on upgraded Firefox from 7 to 8 - using pulse audio

[gentoo-user] recovering plain alsa [WAS:]: no sound on upgraded Firefox from 7 to 8 - using pulse audio

[Francisco Ares]

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Thank you all who replied my last messages.

Now I am back to plain alsa, but no two programs can use it at the same
time. Alsa drivers are built on the kernel, and I have the following
packages installed:

media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.24.1:0
media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.10.35:0.10
media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.24.2-r1:0.9

The two first ones were puled by emerging "alsa-utils".

I have lost "/etc/asound.conf", and I guess this is the key.  Looking to
which package it belongs to, "equery" found none. I have put a quite simple
version (as explained here:
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/ALSA#Default_Sound_Device)::

pcm.!default { type hw card Intel }
ctl.!default { type hw card Intel }

Any hints on how can I get all programs to mix up as before?

Thanks again
Francisco

-- 
"If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you
and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have
one idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas."
- George Bernard Shaw

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Re: [gentoo-user] recovering plain alsa [WAS:]: no sound on upgraded Firefox from 7 to 8 - using pulse audio

[Dale]

Francisco Ares wrote:
> Thank you all who replied my last messages.
>
> Now I am back to plain alsa, but no two programs can use it at the 
> same time. Alsa drivers are built on the kernel, and I have the 
> following packages installed:
>
> media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.24.1:0
> media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.10.35:0.10
> media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.24.2-r1:0.9
>
> The two first ones were puled by emerging "alsa-utils".
>
> I have lost "/etc/asound.conf", and I guess this is the key.  Looking 
> to which package it belongs to, "equery" found none. I have put a 
> quite simple version (as explained here: 
> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/ALSA#Default_Sound_Device) 
> <http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/ALSA#Default_Sound_Device%29>::
>
> pcm.!default { type hw card Intel }
> ctl.!default { type hw card Intel }
>
> Any hints on how can I get all programs to mix up as before?
>
> Thanks again
> Francisco
>
> -- 
> "If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then 
> you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and 
> I have one idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have 
> two ideas." - George Bernard Shaw


I build my audio drivers into my kernel.  I also have these alsa related 
packages installed:

root@fireball / # equery list *alsa*
  * Searching for *alsa* ...
[IP-] [  ] media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.24.1:0
[IP-] [  ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.10.35:0.10
[IP-] [  ] media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.24:0
[IP-] [  ] media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.24.2-r1:0.9
[IP-] [  ] media-sound/alsamixergui-0.9.0.1.2-r4:0
root@fireball / #

See if yours looks something like this.  I can watch videos and other 
programs play sound at the same time.

Dale

:-)  :-)

-- 
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Miss the compile output?  Hint:
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Re: Re: [gentoo-user] recovering plain alsa [WAS:]: no sound on upgraded Firefox from 7 to 8 - using

[frares]

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On , Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> Francisco Ares wrote:

> Thank you all who replied my last messages.

> Now I am back to plain alsa, but no two programs can use it at the same  
> time. Alsa drivers are built on the kernel, and I have the following  
> packages installed:

> media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.24.1:0
> media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.10.35:0.10
> media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.24.2-r1:0.9

> The two first ones were puled by emerging "alsa-utils".

> I have lost "/etc/asound.conf", and I guess this is the key. Looking to  
> which package it belongs to, "equery" found none. I have put a quite  
> simple version (as explained here:  
> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/ALSA#Default_Sound_Device)  
> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/ALSA#Default_Sound_Device%29>::

> pcm.!default { type hw card Intel }
> ctl.!default { type hw card Intel }

> Any hints on how can I get all programs to mix up as before?

> Thanks again
> Francisco

> --
> "If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you  
> and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have  
> one idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two  
> ideas." - George Bernard Shaw



> I build my audio drivers into my kernel. I also have these alsa related  
> packages installed:

> root@fireball / # equery list *alsa*
> * Searching for *alsa* ...
> [IP-] [ ] media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.24.1:0
> [IP-] [ ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.10.35:0.10
> [IP-] [ ] media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.24:0
> [IP-] [ ] media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.24.2-r1:0.9
> [IP-] [ ] media-sound/alsamixergui-0.9.0.1.2-r4:0
> root@fireball / #

> See if yours looks something like this. I can watch videos and other  
> programs play sound at the same time.

> Dale

> :-) :-)

> --
> I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or  
> how you interpreted my words!

> Miss the compile output? Hint:
> EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"


In another machine I have at the office, sound works great without ever  
having pulse installed. And there is no "/etc/asoud.whatever"

I will recompile the kernel to remove a loop device that is going default  
every time.

Will post the results.

Thanks
Francisco

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Re: [gentoo-user] recovering plain alsa [WAS:]: no sound on upgraded Firefox from 7 to 8 - using

[Dale]

frares@gmail.com wrote:
> On , Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Francisco Ares wrote:
> >
> > Thank you all who replied my last messages.
> >
> > Now I am back to plain alsa, but no two programs can use it at the 
> same time. Alsa drivers are built on the kernel, and I have the 
> following packages installed:
> >
> > media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.24.1:0
> > media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.10.35:0.10
> > media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.24.2-r1:0.9
> >
> > The two first ones were puled by emerging "alsa-utils".
> >
> > I have lost "/etc/asound.conf", and I guess this is the key. 
>  Looking to which package it belongs to, "equery" found none. I have 
> put a quite simple version (as explained here: 
> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/ALSA#Default_Sound_Device) 
> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/ALSA#Default_Sound_Device%29>::
> >
> > pcm.!default { type hw card Intel }
> > ctl.!default { type hw card Intel }
> >
> > Any hints on how can I get all programs to mix up as before?
> >
> > Thanks again
> > Francisco
> >
> > --
> > "If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples 
> then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea 
> and I have one idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will 
> have two ideas." - George Bernard Shaw
> >
> >
> >
> > I build my audio drivers into my kernel.  I also have these alsa 
> related packages installed:
> >
> > root@fireball / # equery list *alsa*
> >  * Searching for *alsa* ...
> > [IP-] [  ] media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.24.1:0
> > [IP-] [  ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.10.35:0.10
> > [IP-] [  ] media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.24:0
> > [IP-] [  ] media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.24.2-r1:0.9
> > [IP-] [  ] media-sound/alsamixergui-0.9.0.1.2-r4:0
> > root@fireball / #
> >
> > See if yours looks something like this.  I can watch videos and 
> other programs play sound at the same time.
> >
> > Dale
> >
> > :-)  :-)
> >
> > --
> > I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you 
> understood or how you interpreted my words!
> >
> > Miss the compile output?  Hint:
> > EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"
> >
>
> In another machine I have at the office, sound works great without 
> ever having pulse installed. And there is no "/etc/asoud.whatever"
>
> I will recompile the kernel to remove a loop device that is going 
> default every time.
>
> Will post the results.
>
> Thanks
> Francisco 

I noticed this in my updates tonight.  This may be what you need to 
install or check into.

[I] media-libs/sdl-mixer
      Available versions:  1.2.11-r1{tbz2} {flac mad +midi mikmod mp3 
playtools static-libs timidity vorbis +wav}
      Installed versions:  1.2.11-r1{tbz2}(07:58:24 PM 12/09/2011)(flac 
mad midi mp3 vorbis wav -mikmod -playtools -static-libs -timidity)
      Homepage:            http://www.libsdl.org/projects/SDL_mixer/
      Description:         Simple Direct Media Layer Mixer Library

 From what it says, it is what mixes sounds.  That's my thinking anyway.

Dale

:-)  :-)

-- 
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Miss the compile output?  Hint:
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"

Re: [gentoo-user] recovering plain alsa [WAS:]: no sound on upgraded Firefox from 7 to 8 - using

[Francisco Ares]

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On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> frares@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On , Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Francisco Ares wrote:
>> >
>> > Thank you all who replied my last messages.
>> >
>> > Now I am back to plain alsa, but no two programs can use it at the same
>> time. Alsa drivers are built on the kernel, and I have the following
>> packages installed:
>> >
>> > media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.24.1:0
>> > media-plugins/gst-plugins-**alsa-0.10.35:0.10
>> > media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.24.**2-r1:0.9
>> >
>> > The two first ones were puled by emerging "alsa-utils".
>> >
>> > I have lost "/etc/asound.conf", and I guess this is the key.  Looking
>> to which package it belongs to, "equery" found none. I have put a quite
>> simple version (as explained here: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/**
>> wiki/ALSA#Default_Sound_Device<http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/ALSA#Default_Sound_Device>
>> **) http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/**wiki/ALSA#Default_Sound_**Device%29<http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/ALSA#Default_Sound_Device%29>
>> >::
>> >
>> > pcm.!default { type hw card Intel }
>> > ctl.!default { type hw card Intel }
>> >
>> > Any hints on how can I get all programs to mix up as before?
>> >
>> > Thanks again
>> > Francisco
>> >
>> > --
>> > "If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then
>> you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I
>> have one idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two
>> ideas." - George Bernard Shaw
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I build my audio drivers into my kernel.  I also have these alsa
>> related packages installed:
>> >
>> > root@fireball / # equery list *alsa*
>> >  * Searching for *alsa* ...
>> > [IP-] [  ] media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.24.1:0
>> > [IP-] [  ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-**alsa-0.10.35:0.10
>> > [IP-] [  ] media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.**24:0
>> > [IP-] [  ] media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.24.**2-r1:0.9
>> > [IP-] [  ] media-sound/alsamixergui-0.9.**0.1.2-r4:0
>> > root@fireball / #
>> >
>> > See if yours looks something like this.  I can watch videos and other
>> programs play sound at the same time.
>> >
>> > Dale
>> >
>> > :-)  :-)
>> >
>> > --
>> > I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood
>> or how you interpreted my words!
>> >
>> > Miss the compile output?  Hint:
>> > EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-**build=n"
>> >
>>
>> In another machine I have at the office, sound works great without ever
>> having pulse installed. And there is no "/etc/asoud.whatever"
>>
>> I will recompile the kernel to remove a loop device that is going default
>> every time.
>>
>> Will post the results.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Francisco
>>
>
> I noticed this in my updates tonight.  This may be what you need to
> install or check into.
>
> [I] media-libs/sdl-mixer
>     Available versions:  1.2.11-r1{tbz2} {flac mad +midi mikmod mp3
> playtools static-libs timidity vorbis +wav}
>     Installed versions:  1.2.11-r1{tbz2}(07:58:24 PM 12/09/2011)(flac mad
> midi mp3 vorbis wav -mikmod -playtools -static-libs -timidity)
>     Homepage:            http://www.libsdl.org/**projects/SDL_mixer/<http://www.libsdl.org/projects/SDL_mixer/>
>     Description:         Simple Direct Media Layer Mixer Library
>
> From what it says, it is what mixes sounds.  That's my thinking anyway.
>
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>
> --
> I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or
> how you interpreted my words!
>
> Miss the compile output?  Hint:
> EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-**build=n"
>
>
>
Thanks, Dale, but now everything is working fine again. I left "genkernel"
working overnight on my custom ".config", and now that I removed
"/etc/asound.conf" and "/etc/asound.status" and rebooted, everything is
working fine with just plain ALSA.

As far as I know, "sdl" is somewhat like "pulse", isn't it? Some higher
level of interfacing, I think.  Let's do some more research...

By the way, looking on your previous post, why do you have alsa-libs
emerged and alsa built in the kernel at the same time?

Thanks again
Francisco


-- 
"If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you
and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have
one idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas."
- George Bernard Shaw

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Re: [gentoo-user] recovering plain alsa [WAS:]: no sound on upgraded Firefox from 7 to 8 - using

[Dale]

Francisco Ares wrote:
>
> Thanks, Dale, but now everything is working fine again. I left 
> "genkernel" working overnight on my custom ".config", and now that I 
> removed "/etc/asound.conf" and "/etc/asound.status" and rebooted, 
> everything is working fine with just plain ALSA.
>
> As far as I know, "sdl" is somewhat like "pulse", isn't it? Some 
> higher level of interfacing, I think.  Let's do some more research...
>
> By the way, looking on your previous post, why do you have alsa-libs 
> emerged and alsa built in the kernel at the same time?
>
> Thanks again
> Francisco
>
>
> -- 
> "If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then 
> you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and 
> I have one idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have 
> two ideas." - George Bernard Shaw

If I recall correctly, I had to install alsamixer to unmute my card.  I 
think that is what pulled that and others in.  Funny thing is, once I 
unmute the card, I guess I can remove the package.  I don't think the 
alsa service is running or anything.  I use Kmix for volume settings.

Strange how each system does the same things but has different ways of 
doing it.  :/

Dale

:-)  :-)

-- 
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Miss the compile output?  Hint:
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"