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[98.95.109.157]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o50sm3164194yhl.9.2011.12.07.05.39.43 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 07 Dec 2011 05:39:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EDF6C9E.8020102@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 07:39:42 -0600 From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111022 Firefox/7.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.4.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge ignoring -v switch References: <20111203142348.GA17203@gaurahari.merseine.nu> <201112041518.57386.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <20111204204955.3e8d101f@digimed.co.uk> <201112060858.43067.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <20111207091428.0f610c7e@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <jbnevj$fi9$1@dough.gmane.org> <20111207105521.2b89d91e@digimed.co.uk> <CAA2qdGX01kGbwzpVxY5s_ehpLdG0QYu+LYCRzm=8FZdF1ry7qg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAA2qdGX01kGbwzpVxY5s_ehpLdG0QYu+LYCRzm=8FZdF1ry7qg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010901000609080308070901" X-Archives-Salt: 552657e4-9a7e-4afc-90c3-0f76dd7dec0b X-Archives-Hash: 8f9d97eaf27267fb3d765539b5672280 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010901000609080308070901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > On Dec 7, 2011 6:00 PM, "Neil Bothwick" <neil@digimed.co.uk > <mailto:neil@digimed.co.uk>> wrote: > > > > On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:26:12 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > > > > > Not only did I mean to finish it, I thought I had. Using > --jobs>1 sets > > > > the quiet-build flag > > > > > > It also sets it if you don't use more than 1 job. As another poster > > > (Hinnerk) already mentioned, the only way to get the old behavior back > > > is to use the "--quiet-build=n" option. > > > > What I said in the text that disappeared from the original post was that > > --jobs has always hidden the gcc output, long before the quiet-build > > option appeared. The new option only makes emerge behave the same when > > -jobs is not set or set to 1. > > > > Indeed, that change gave me a 'wtf moment' for awhile. I used --jobs, > and the one time I purposefully emerge using single job to debug a > failure... the output is still MIA. Luckily it wasn't an emergency so > I still had the mind to do 'man emerge'. > > At the very least, such changes that potentially produce a wtf moment > should be in the news. I mean, --as-needed has been in the news for > quite some time; --quiet-build should also get its own news dispatch. > > Rgds, > There will be a news item IF it stays with the current setting. The news item will appear when it goes stable tho. According to recent posts, it appears the council is going to discuss this and decide if it should be reverted or not. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n" --------------010901000609080308070901 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUTF-8" http-equiv=3D"Content-Ty= pe"> </head> <body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000"> Pandu Poluan wrote: <blockquote cite=3D"mid:CAA2qdGX01kGbwzpVxY5s_ehpLdG0QYu+LYCRzm=3D8FZdF1ry7qg@mail.gm= ail.com" type=3D"cite"> <p><br> On Dec 7, 2011 6:00 PM, "Neil Bothwick" <<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:neil@digimed.co.uk">nei= l@digimed.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br> ><br> > On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:26:12 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:<br> ><br> > > > Not only did I mean to finish it, I thought I had. Using --jobs>1 sets<br> > > > the quiet-build flag<br> > ><br> > > It also sets it if you don't use more than 1 job. =C2=A0= As another poster<br> > > (Hinnerk) already mentioned, the only way to get the old behavior back<br> > > is to use the "--quiet-build=3Dn" option.<br> ><br> > What I said in the text that disappeared from the original post was that<br> > --jobs has always hidden the gcc output, long before the quiet-build<br> > option appeared. The new option only makes emerge behave the same when<br> > -jobs is not set or set to 1.<br> ></p> <p>Indeed, that change gave me a 'wtf moment' for awhile. I used --jobs, and the one time I purposefully emerge using single job to debug a failure... the output is still MIA. Luckily it wasn't an emergency so I still had the mind to do 'man emerge'.</p> <p>At the very least, such changes that potentially produce a wtf moment should be in the news. I mean, --as-needed has been in the news for quite some time; --quiet-build should also get its own news dispatch.</p> <p>Rgds,<br> </p> </blockquote> <br> There will be a news item IF it stays with the current setting.=C2=A0= The news item will appear when it goes stable tho.=C2=A0 According to rec= ent posts, it appears the council is going to discuss this and decide if it should be reverted or not.=C2=A0 <br> <br> Dale<br> <br> :-)=C2=A0 :-)=C2=A0 <br> <br> <pre class=3D"moz-signature" cols=3D"72">--=20 I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or = how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=3D"--quiet-build=3Dn"</pre> </body> </html> --------------010901000609080308070901--