[gentoo-user] emerge ignoring -v switch

[gentoo-user] emerge ignoring -v switch

[Indi]

Howdy y'all,

About a month or so ago I did an update which seems to have caused 
portage to lose the ability to work verbosely. 
Ever since it looks like this:
<paste>
idd@gh:[~]9:07:23 $ sudo emerge -vauND adobe-flash

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild     U  ] sys-libs/glibc-2.14.1-r1 [2.14.1] USE="nls -debug -gd -glibc-omitfp (-hardened) (-multilib) -profile (-selinux) -vanilla" 150 kB
[ebuild   R    ] sys-devel/binutils-2.22  USE="nls zlib%* -multislot -multitarget -static-libs -test -vanilla" 0 kB
[ebuild     U  ] dev-libs/openssl-1.0.0e-r1 [1.0.0e] USE="bindist kerberos sse2 zlib -gmp -rfc3779 -static-libs% -test" 3,950 kB
[ebuild     U  ] net-misc/curl-7.23.1 [7.22.0] USE="ipv6 ssl threads -ares -gnutls -idn -kerberos -ldap -nss -ssh% -static-libs -test (-libssh2%)" 2,321 kB
[ebuild     U  ] dev-libs/cyrus-sasl-2.1.25 [2.1.23-r6] USE="berkdb openldap ssl -authdaemond -gdbm -java -kerberos -ldapdb% -mysql -pam -postgres -sample -sqlite% -srp -static-libs% -urandom (-crypt%*) (-ntlm_unsupported_patch%)" 5,088 kB
[ebuild     U  ] dev-vcs/git-1.7.8 [1.7.8_rc4] USE="blksha1 cgi curl cvs iconv perl python subversion threads webdav -doc -emacs -gtk (-ppcsha1) -tk -xinetd" 3,941 kB

Total: 6 packages (5 upgrades, 1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 15,448 kB

Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] y
>>> Verifying ebuild manifests
>>> Starting parallel fetch
>>> Emerging (1 of 6) sys-libs/glibc-2.14.1-r1
>>> Jobs: 0 of 6 complete, 1 running                Load avg: 2.16, 1.66, 1.10

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Remerged python, verified the right python via eselect, remerge portage, etc etc etc etc
I just can't seem to get proper output from emerge anymore no matter what. Other than that
everything is working fine, but I do need to see actual output.

Anyone know what to do to fix this?

TIA!

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge ignoring -v switch

[Hinnerk van Bruinehsen]

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Hi,

that is not the verbose flag, but silent-build. If you want the old
behaviour back, you can add

EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"

to your make.conf

So long

Hinnerk

On 03.12.2011 15:23, Indi wrote:
> Howdy y'all,
> 
> About a month or so ago I did an update which seems to have caused
>  portage to lose the ability to work verbosely. Ever since it looks
> like this: <paste> idd@gh:[~]9:07:23 $ sudo emerge -vauND
> adobe-flash
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild     U  ]
> sys-libs/glibc-2.14.1-r1 [2.14.1] USE="nls -debug -gd -glibc-omitfp
> (-hardened) (-multilib) -profile (-selinux) -vanilla" 150 kB 
> [ebuild   R    ] sys-devel/binutils-2.22  USE="nls zlib%*
> -multislot -multitarget -static-libs -test -vanilla" 0 kB [ebuild
> U  ] dev-libs/openssl-1.0.0e-r1 [1.0.0e] USE="bindist kerberos sse2
> zlib -gmp -rfc3779 -static-libs% -test" 3,950 kB [ebuild     U  ]
> net-misc/curl-7.23.1 [7.22.0] USE="ipv6 ssl threads -ares -gnutls
> -idn -kerberos -ldap -nss -ssh% -static-libs -test (-libssh2%)"
> 2,321 kB [ebuild     U  ] dev-libs/cyrus-sasl-2.1.25 [2.1.23-r6]
> USE="berkdb openldap ssl -authdaemond -gdbm -java -kerberos
> -ldapdb% -mysql -pam -postgres -sample -sqlite% -srp -static-libs%
> -urandom (-crypt%*) (-ntlm_unsupported_patch%)" 5,088 kB [ebuild
> U  ] dev-vcs/git-1.7.8 [1.7.8_rc4] USE="blksha1 cgi curl cvs iconv
> perl python subversion threads webdav -doc -emacs -gtk (-ppcsha1)
> -tk -xinetd" 3,941 kB
> 
> Total: 6 packages (5 upgrades, 1 reinstall), Size of downloads:
> 15,448 kB
> 
> Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] y
>>>> Verifying ebuild manifests Starting parallel fetch Emerging
>>>> (1 of 6) sys-libs/glibc-2.14.1-r1 Jobs: 0 of 6 complete, 1
>>>> running                Load avg: 2.16, 1.66, 1.10
> 
> </paste>
> 
> Remerged python, verified the right python via eselect, remerge
> portage, etc etc etc etc I just can't seem to get proper output
> from emerge anymore no matter what. Other than that everything is
> working fine, but I do need to see actual output.
> 
> Anyone know what to do to fix this?
> 
> TIA!
> 

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge ignoring -v switch

[Frank Steinmetzger]

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On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 09:23:48AM -0500, Indi wrote:

> About a month or so ago I did an update which seems to have caused 
> portage to lose the ability to work verbosely. 
> Ever since it looks like this:
> <paste>
> idd@gh:[~]9:07:23 $ sudo emerge -vauND adobe-flash
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild     U  ] sys-libs/glibc-2.14.1-r1 [2.14.1] USE="nls -debug -gd -glibc-omitfp (-hardened) (-multilib) -profile (-selinux) -vanilla" 150 kB
> [ebuild   R    ] sys-devel/binutils-2.22  USE="nls zlib%* -multislot -multitarget -static-libs -test -vanilla" 0 kB
> [ebuild     U  ] dev-libs/openssl-1.0.0e-r1 [1.0.0e] USE="bindist kerberos sse2 zlib -gmp -rfc3779 -static-libs% -test" 3,950 kB
> [ebuild     U  ] net-misc/curl-7.23.1 [7.22.0] USE="ipv6 ssl threads -ares -gnutls -idn -kerberos -ldap -nss -ssh% -static-libs -test (-libssh2%)" 2,321 kB
> [ebuild     U  ] dev-libs/cyrus-sasl-2.1.25 [2.1.23-r6] USE="berkdb openldap ssl -authdaemond -gdbm -java -kerberos -ldapdb% -mysql -pam -postgres -sample -sqlite% -srp -static-libs% -urandom (-crypt%*) (-ntlm_unsupported_patch%)" 5,088 kB
> [ebuild     U  ] dev-vcs/git-1.7.8 [1.7.8_rc4] USE="blksha1 cgi curl cvs iconv perl python subversion threads webdav -doc -emacs -gtk (-ppcsha1) -tk -xinetd" 3,941 kB
> 
> Total: 6 packages (5 upgrades, 1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 15,448 kB
> 
> Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] y
> >>> Verifying ebuild manifests
> >>> Starting parallel fetch
> >>> Emerging (1 of 6) sys-libs/glibc-2.14.1-r1
> >>> Jobs: 0 of 6 complete, 1 running                Load avg: 2.16, 1.66, 1.10
> 
> </paste>
> 
> Remerged python, verified the right python via eselect, remerge portage, etc etc etc etc
> I just can't seem to get proper output from emerge anymore no matter what. Other than that
> everything is working fine, but I do need to see actual output.
> 
> Anyone know what to do to fix this?

Did you enable parallel builds? I.e. added --jobs and/or --load related options
to EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS? In that case emerge uses this kind of output, because
obviously you can’t display multiple builds at the same time in one window.

The -v flag, to my knowledge, only affects the output of -p and -a, adding
information like used and changed use flags and file size to download for each
package to be installed.
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge ignoring -v switch

[Mick]

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On Saturday 03 Dec 2011 16:45:19 Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 09:23:48AM -0500, Indi wrote:
> > About a month or so ago I did an update which seems to have caused
> > portage to lose the ability to work verbosely.
> > Ever since it looks like this:
> > <paste>
> > idd@gh:[~]9:07:23 $ sudo emerge -vauND adobe-flash
> > 
> > These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> > 
> > Calculating dependencies... done!
> > [ebuild     U  ] sys-libs/glibc-2.14.1-r1 [2.14.1] USE="nls -debug -gd
> > -glibc-omitfp (-hardened) (-multilib) -profile (-selinux) -vanilla" 150
> > kB [ebuild   R    ] sys-devel/binutils-2.22  USE="nls zlib%* -multislot
> > -multitarget -static-libs -test -vanilla" 0 kB [ebuild     U  ]
> > dev-libs/openssl-1.0.0e-r1 [1.0.0e] USE="bindist kerberos sse2 zlib -gmp
> > -rfc3779 -static-libs% -test" 3,950 kB [ebuild     U  ]
> > net-misc/curl-7.23.1 [7.22.0] USE="ipv6 ssl threads -ares -gnutls -idn
> > -kerberos -ldap -nss -ssh% -static-libs -test (-libssh2%)" 2,321 kB
> > [ebuild     U  ] dev-libs/cyrus-sasl-2.1.25 [2.1.23-r6] USE="berkdb
> > openldap ssl -authdaemond -gdbm -java -kerberos -ldapdb% -mysql -pam
> > -postgres -sample -sqlite% -srp -static-libs% -urandom (-crypt%*)
> > (-ntlm_unsupported_patch%)" 5,088 kB [ebuild     U  ] dev-vcs/git-1.7.8
> > [1.7.8_rc4] USE="blksha1 cgi curl cvs iconv perl python subversion
> > threads webdav -doc -emacs -gtk (-ppcsha1) -tk -xinetd" 3,941 kB
> > 
> > Total: 6 packages (5 upgrades, 1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 15,448 kB
> > 
> > Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] y
> > 
> > >>> Verifying ebuild manifests
> > >>> Starting parallel fetch
> > >>> Emerging (1 of 6) sys-libs/glibc-2.14.1-r1
> > >>> Jobs: 0 of 6 complete, 1 running                Load avg: 2.16, 1.66,
> > >>> 1.10
> > 
> > </paste>
> > 
> > Remerged python, verified the right python via eselect, remerge portage,
> > etc etc etc etc I just can't seem to get proper output from emerge
> > anymore no matter what. Other than that everything is working fine, but
> > I do need to see actual output.
> > 
> > Anyone know what to do to fix this?
> 
> Did you enable parallel builds? I.e. added --jobs and/or --load related
> options to EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS? In that case emerge uses this kind of
> output, because obviously you can’t display multiple builds at the same
> time in one window.
> 
> The -v flag, to my knowledge, only affects the output of -p and -a, adding
> information like used and changed use flags and file size to download for
> each package to be installed.

I've got both -j and -l set in my MAKEOPTS and portage is quite verbose as it 
has always been.  I don't know if EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS has a different effect.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge ignoring -v switch

[Frank Steinmetzger]

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On Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 08:27:33AM +0000, Mick wrote:

> > > Remerged python, verified the right python via eselect, remerge portage,
> > > etc etc etc etc I just can't seem to get proper output from emerge
> > > anymore no matter what. Other than that everything is working fine, but
> > > I do need to see actual output.
> > > 
> > > Anyone know what to do to fix this?
> > 
> > Did you enable parallel builds? I.e. added --jobs and/or --load related
> > options to EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS? In that case emerge uses this kind of
> > output, because obviously you can’t display multiple builds at the same
> > time in one window.
> > 
> > The -v flag, to my knowledge, only affects the output of -p and -a, adding
> > information like used and changed use flags and file size to download for
> > each package to be installed.
> 
> I've got both -j and -l set in my MAKEOPTS and portage is quite verbose as it 
> has always been.  I don't know if EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS has a different effect.

Indeed it has. MAKE_OPTS contains options to make, whereas EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS
contains those for emerge. Both have a -j option. If you tell -j (jobs) to
emerge, it will do as many emerges simultaneously.
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge ignoring -v switch

[Mick]

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On Sunday 04 Dec 2011 14:05:29 Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 08:27:33AM +0000, Mick wrote:
> > > > Remerged python, verified the right python via eselect, remerge
> > > > portage, etc etc etc etc I just can't seem to get proper output from
> > > > emerge anymore no matter what. Other than that everything is working
> > > > fine, but I do need to see actual output.
> > > > 
> > > > Anyone know what to do to fix this?
> > > 
> > > Did you enable parallel builds? I.e. added --jobs and/or --load related
> > > options to EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS? In that case emerge uses this kind of
> > > output, because obviously you can’t display multiple builds at the same
> > > time in one window.
> > > 
> > > The -v flag, to my knowledge, only affects the output of -p and -a,
> > > adding information like used and changed use flags and file size to
> > > download for each package to be installed.
> > 
> > I've got both -j and -l set in my MAKEOPTS and portage is quite verbose
> > as it has always been.  I don't know if EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS has a
> > different effect.
> 
> Indeed it has. MAKE_OPTS contains options to make, whereas
> EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS contains those for emerge. Both have a -j option. If
> you tell -j (jobs) to emerge, it will do as many emerges simultaneously.

Oh I see!  Thanks for explaining this.

But then if there were say 5 ebuilds running in parallel and all their output 
printed in the same terminal, it would be almightily difficult to untangle the 
spaghetti that may show up in an error?
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge ignoring -v switch

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 15:18:40 +0000, Mick wrote:

> But then if there were say 5 ebuilds running in parallel and all their
> output printed in the same terminal, it would be almightily difficult
> to untangle the spaghetti that may show up in an error?

Which is why setting -j >1 sets wh

-- 
Neil Bothwick

I don't have any solution, but I certainly admire the problem.
at is now the quiet-build option, so you only get the progress
information from portage, not from gcc. If one of your ebuilds fails, the
gcc output is displayed at the end.


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge ignoring -v switch

[Mick]

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On Sunday 04 Dec 2011 20:49:55 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 15:18:40 +0000, Mick wrote:
> > But then if there were say 5 ebuilds running in parallel and all their
> > output printed in the same terminal, it would be almightily difficult
> > to untangle the spaghetti that may show up in an error?
> 
> Which is why setting -j >1 sets wh

Did you mean to finish this message later on, or does "wh" mean something?  o_O
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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge ignoring -v switch

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 08:58:23 +0000, Mick wrote:

> On Sunday 04 Dec 2011 20:49:55 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 15:18:40 +0000, Mick wrote:  
> > > But then if there were say 5 ebuilds running in parallel and all
> > > their output printed in the same terminal, it would be almightily
> > > difficult to untangle the spaghetti that may show up in an error?  
> > 
> > Which is why setting -j >1 sets wh  
> 
> Did you mean to finish this message later on, or does "wh" mean
> something?  o_O

Not only did I mean to finish it, I thought I had. Using --jobs >1 sets
the quiet-build flag, so you only get the emerge output, not all the
stuff from autotools and gcc. If an ebuild fails, you get that output at
the end.


-- 
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[gentoo-user] Re: emerge ignoring -v switch

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 12/07/2011 11:14 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 08:58:23 +0000, Mick wrote:
>
>> On Sunday 04 Dec 2011 20:49:55 Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>> On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 15:18:40 +0000, Mick wrote:
>>>> But then if there were say 5 ebuilds running in parallel and all
>>>> their output printed in the same terminal, it would be almightily
>>>> difficult to untangle the spaghetti that may show up in an error?
>>>
>>> Which is why setting -j>1 sets wh
>>
>> Did you mean to finish this message later on, or does "wh" mean
>> something?  o_O
>
> Not only did I mean to finish it, I thought I had. Using --jobs>1 sets
> the quiet-build flag

It also sets it if you don't use more than 1 job.  As another poster 
(Hinnerk) already mentioned, the only way to get the old behavior back 
is to use the "--quiet-build=n" option.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge ignoring -v switch

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:26:12 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

> > Not only did I mean to finish it, I thought I had. Using --jobs>1 sets
> > the quiet-build flag  
> 
> It also sets it if you don't use more than 1 job.  As another poster 
> (Hinnerk) already mentioned, the only way to get the old behavior back 
> is to use the "--quiet-build=n" option.

What I said in the text that disappeared from the original post was that
--jobs has always hidden the gcc output, long before the quiet-build
option appeared. The new option only makes emerge behave the same when
-jobs is not set or set to 1.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge ignoring -v switch

[Pandu Poluan]

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On Dec 7, 2011 6:00 PM, "Neil Bothwick" <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:26:12 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>
> > > Not only did I mean to finish it, I thought I had. Using --jobs>1 sets
> > > the quiet-build flag
> >
> > It also sets it if you don't use more than 1 job.  As another poster
> > (Hinnerk) already mentioned, the only way to get the old behavior back
> > is to use the "--quiet-build=n" option.
>
> What I said in the text that disappeared from the original post was that
> --jobs has always hidden the gcc output, long before the quiet-build
> option appeared. The new option only makes emerge behave the same when
> -jobs is not set or set to 1.
>

Indeed, that change gave me a 'wtf moment' for awhile. I used --jobs, and
the one time I purposefully emerge using single job to debug a failure...
the output is still MIA. Luckily it wasn't an emergency so I still had the
mind to do 'man emerge'.

At the very least, such changes that potentially produce a wtf moment
should be in the news. I mean, --as-needed has been in the news for quite
some time; --quiet-build should also get its own news dispatch.

Rgds,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge ignoring -v switch

[Dale]

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Pandu Poluan wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 7, 2011 6:00 PM, "Neil Bothwick" <neil@digimed.co.uk 
> <mailto:neil@digimed.co.uk>> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:26:12 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> >
> > > > Not only did I mean to finish it, I thought I had. Using 
> --jobs>1 sets
> > > > the quiet-build flag
> > >
> > > It also sets it if you don't use more than 1 job.  As another poster
> > > (Hinnerk) already mentioned, the only way to get the old behavior back
> > > is to use the "--quiet-build=n" option.
> >
> > What I said in the text that disappeared from the original post was that
> > --jobs has always hidden the gcc output, long before the quiet-build
> > option appeared. The new option only makes emerge behave the same when
> > -jobs is not set or set to 1.
> >
>
> Indeed, that change gave me a 'wtf moment' for awhile. I used --jobs, 
> and the one time I purposefully emerge using single job to debug a 
> failure... the output is still MIA. Luckily it wasn't an emergency so 
> I still had the mind to do 'man emerge'.
>
> At the very least, such changes that potentially produce a wtf moment 
> should be in the news. I mean, --as-needed has been in the news for 
> quite some time; --quiet-build should also get its own news dispatch.
>
> Rgds,
>

There will be a news item IF it stays with the current setting.  The 
news item will appear when it goes stable tho.  According to recent 
posts, it appears the council is going to discuss this and decide if it 
should be reverted or not.

Dale

:-)  :-)

-- 
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!

Miss the compile output?  Hint:
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge ignoring -v switch

[Frank Steinmetzger]

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On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 06:13:22PM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote:

> Indeed, that change gave me a 'wtf moment' for awhile. I used --jobs, and
> the one time I purposefully emerge using single job to debug a failure...
> the output is still MIA. Luckily it wasn't an emergency so I still had the
> mind to do 'man emerge'.

My PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES contains the item "log". Thusly for each package I
emerge I get a file in /var/log/portage wuth the compile output as content.  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge ignoring -v switch

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 17:13:56 +0100, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:

> My PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES contains the item "log". Thusly for each
> package I emerge I get a file in /var/log/portage wuth the compile
> output as content.  

That setting controls the output of the elog messages. The destination of
the complete compile output is controlled by PORT_LOGDIR.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

I heard someone tried the monkeys-on-typewriters bit trying for the plays
of W. Shakespeare but all they got was the collected works of Francis
Bacon

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