From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RXvaJ-0004MS-8s for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2011 14:01:27 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 985AB21C1A9; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 14:01:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from postler.lichtfels.com (postler.lichtfels.com [78.46.92.195]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9702A21C145 for ; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 13:59:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postler.lichtfels.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 483F814B6F for ; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 14:59:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from postler.lichtfels.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (postler.lichtfels.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with LMTP id 30495-06 for ; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 14:59:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from hiro.oops.intern (mail.oops.co.at [213.129.238.225]) by postler.lichtfels.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 2A05414B6E for ; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 14:59:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4EDE1FD1.4010704@xunil.at> Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 14:59:45 +0100 From: "Stefan G. Weichinger" Organization: oops! User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111126 Thunderbird/8.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] thinkpad w/ core i5-2xxx ? References: <4EDE0A9F.5010203@xunil.at> <1323176701.12317.20.camel@stretch> In-Reply-To: <1323176701.12317.20.camel@stretch> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.2a X-Archives-Salt: d4ec9dea-bcf1-449e-aadb-f9dad7d5735d X-Archives-Hash: 618c51017995784f2f6f4b93745c60fa Am 06.12.2011 14:05, schrieb Albert W. Hopkins: > I too have an R61... was happy that it came preinstalled with Linux > (albeit SuSe Linux) and the general experience with it has been > rather pleasant. It was my first ThinkPad and what got me "hooked" > on them. Same here, yes ... > Earlier this year I bought an X1.. I was specifically looking for > something thinner/lighter and without things I don't use (e.g. > optical drive and VGA port). The X1 fits the bill, but with some > caveats.. it's a glossy widescreen. While I've gotten use to the > screen (and actually like it in many ways), I'd still rather have a > 4:3 screen. The thinness and lightness, and nice backlit keyboard > make up for it though. X1 -> too expensive for my current budget and needs. Especially with glossy screen :-) Thinner/lighter, yes, I would also like that. > The X1 is pretty much Gentoo-friendly. all the hardware I have is > supported (well I haven't tried the fingerprint reader in Gentoo, > but it works to boot/resume the machine). Bluetooth and SDHC > adapter works. All "extra" keys work (there aren't really many extra > keys, which I like). HDMI works (though I haven't tried audio via > HDMI yet). The USB3 port works. The eSATA port works. Bluetooth > works. > > Things you may not like: built-in battery. The battery life is kinda > only so-so, which is disappointing for a thin/light. I get about > 3-4 hours on a charge. I've heard reports of bigger ThinkPads > getting better battery life. It does have an option. Yep, builtin battery is a minus. I had to buy a new one already for the R61. > Oh, the keyboard is different, but I like it. I type pretty well on > it (as a programmer I bang on it quite a lot). I originally had a > problem where the up arrow seemed not to "fit" correctly, and had to > apply a little extra pressure to get it to work, but I guess normal > wear on it has made it act normally. > > Some people complained that there is not CAPS lock indicator on the > machine, but as I have CAPS mapped to another CTRL key, it has not > been an issue for me. > > When I got my X1 it kept shutting down.. overheating or whatever. It > was *very* annoying. I took it to the authorized repair center a few > times. First they replaced the fan, then the battery. Finally I > quasi-purposefully bricked it (updated the firmware and it shut off > midway). I took it to the repair center again. This time they > shipped it to Lenovo. Lenovo replaced the motherboard. And, quite > surprisingly, they replaced my i3 processor with an i7 for free. > Since the motherboard replacement, the machine has not shut down on > me once (and I stress it pretty good with Gentoo) so perhaps it was > just a bad capacitor or something. Good to hear they were "cooperative" ... > When it's cool it's quiet. When it's hot the fan is pretty audible. > But it usually cools down pretty quick after an emerge. > > All-in-all, I really like the thin/lightness of the machine. It's > very portable, but not one of those netbooks (which are too small > for my tastes and I never touched one with a keyboard that I liked). > It's powerful enough for my needs and the build quality is good (not > withstanding the original heating issue (repaired), the keyboard > issue (fixed itself), and the glossy screen (learned to live with > it). > > Hope this helps, -a Albert, thanks a lot for your detailled report ... although I won't get an X1 it helps anyway. I currently look at the cheaper ones: Edge E520, L520, T420 ... Stefan