From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ROxb1-0004Yx-GX for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:21:09 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 04D7D21C0F2; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:20:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f53.google.com (mail-yw0-f53.google.com [209.85.213.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B8C21C042 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:19:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywp18 with SMTP id 18so1749220ywp.40 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 12:19:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6IXiAfMl4lg8m1hy6f3OAWU+hB4a49oT/egXAFNgifg=; b=DdJm5QZmncq0NVeM+QgG61czNFmNCNKfrYcMbo+QuEcTnGt/n3+zdUKSccZ6DrL33o zZHf/oFgzMfu5oNuCHXtV7UETXurZziG83CDCVW/IOfYr9FKVpWySMS3X4XyxMA1WhrC EmawkIqRVS1gE7kwyaQtmMUVI0AcfB06cJ1+w= Received: by 10.101.63.14 with SMTP id q14mr6125663ank.101.1321042795445; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 12:19:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-124-88.jan.bellsouth.net. [65.0.124.88]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b9sm36708844anb.7.2011.11.11.12.19.52 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 11 Nov 2011 12:19:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EBD8361.7080407@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:19:45 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111022 Firefox/7.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.4.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Binary install distro References: <4EBC1707.5030103@gmail.com> <4EBD3738.9090203@gmail.com> <4EBD4224.7070307@gmail.com> <20111111211831.68ab7c63@rohan.example.com> In-Reply-To: <20111111211831.68ab7c63@rohan.example.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: c9fda4bb-99a7-4a7e-88cc-ab39e24b7349 X-Archives-Hash: 84a1857dc5741bdfb6a7d5ebab142b55 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:49:54 +0100 > Lorenzo Bandieri wrote: >>> I don't use sudo on my rig so it sort of annoys me. ;-) I guess >>> we have that in common. lol >>> >>> The update tool is GUI. That's why I think he can do that himself. >>> A lot like winders in a way. Heck, if this works well and that >>> intfs thingy gets on my nerves, may use it myself. :-( I may >>> have found my next distro. I'm not leaving yet. I'm going to give >>> the inity thingy a shot, maybe two. After that, kill shot. >>> >>> Dale >>> >> I hate sudo, I never got the point in using it - and actually it is >> one of the thing that makes Ubuntu annoying to me. I'm not the only >> one, then! :D > Then you must be using a single-user machine. Like your own laptop or > desktop. > > sudo is absolutely necessary on any multi-user machine unless you like > security holes. > > Instead of bashing sudo, it's better to find out what problem it is > designed to solve, then determine if you have that problem. It does > have a point, and a very valuable one too, you just seem to not have > seen it yet. > Mine is a single user machine both for me and my brother. That said, if I did have other users on my machine, they wouldn't even be in the wheel group so sudo wouldn't happen either. They would be able to do user things but nothing else. That said, I know sudo fixes some problems and has its reason for existing. Me, its just like the init thingy, I haven't found a good reason yet to have one so no need adding it. That will likely change shortly but hopefully not today. I found a workaround on kubuntu tho. Just set the root password so you can login as root and carry on. ;-) Even I have a gas pocket in my brain from time to time. :-D Cheer up Alan. Dale :-) :-)