[gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[CJoeB]

Hi Everyone,

I hope someone will be able to "lead me by the nose" here.

For a number of weeks now, I have been trying to install Gentoo on my
new desktop.  I kept running into issues and due to time constraints
when I was installing, I put off trying to resolve them.

Today, I went through the install process, had a couple of issues, but
was able to figure them out and got to the point where I was supposed to
boot into my new system.  I got the boot menu, the boot process seemed
to be okay, but when I got to the point where I assumed I should get a
command prompt to finish up, all I got was a weird screen that was half
black and half fuzzy with a bunch of colours (sorry, I can describe this
any better).  I tried recompiling the kernel thinking it was a problem
that I had created during the initial compilation, but that ended with
the same result.

The computer is a Dell XPS 8300
It has a Radeon graphics card, but I wouldn't think this would be an
issue until I tried to install X.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[Michael Mol]

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:06 PM, CJoeB <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I hope someone will be able to "lead me by the nose" here.
>
> For a number of weeks now, I have been trying to install Gentoo on my
> new desktop.  I kept running into issues and due to time constraints
> when I was installing, I put off trying to resolve them.
>
> Today, I went through the install process, had a couple of issues, but
> was able to figure them out and got to the point where I was supposed to
> boot into my new system.  I got the boot menu, the boot process seemed
> to be okay, but when I got to the point where I assumed I should get a
> command prompt to finish up, all I got was a weird screen that was half
> black and half fuzzy with a bunch of colours (sorry, I can describe this
> any better).  I tried recompiling the kernel thinking it was a problem
> that I had created during the initial compilation, but that ended with
> the same result.
>
> The computer is a Dell XPS 8300
> It has a Radeon graphics card, but I wouldn't think this would be an
> issue until I tried to install X.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas?

Try dropping framebuffer console drivers?

Also, what exact model of Radeon?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[Mark Knecht]

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:06 PM, CJoeB <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I hope someone will be able to "lead me by the nose" here.
>
> For a number of weeks now, I have been trying to install Gentoo on my
> new desktop.  I kept running into issues and due to time constraints
> when I was installing, I put off trying to resolve them.
>
> Today, I went through the install process, had a couple of issues, but
> was able to figure them out and got to the point where I was supposed to
> boot into my new system.  I got the boot menu, the boot process seemed
> to be okay, but when I got to the point where I assumed I should get a
> command prompt to finish up, all I got was a weird screen that was half
> black and half fuzzy with a bunch of colours (sorry, I can describe this
> any better).  I tried recompiling the kernel thinking it was a problem
> that I had created during the initial compilation, but that ended with
> the same result.
>
> The computer is a Dell XPS 8300
> It has a Radeon graphics card, but I wouldn't think this would be an
> issue until I tried to install X.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas?
>
> Regards,
>
> Colleen

Hi Colleen,
   If you got past booting the kernel and into the init part of the
boot (where you see the green OKs) then it sounds like some problem
with either the X system or possibly the font set. I doubt the later
as that wouldn't be very likely to make the screen half black, etc.

   What happens after the problem occurs but maybe you jump to a new
console? (Alt-Ctrl-F2 for instance) do you get a login prompt or is
that messed up also?

   You might also try modifying your kernel line in grub (I assume
you're using grub) by appending gentoo=nox. That should stop X from
starting, if it is, and might give you a little more info.

   If you do get a login prompt, then login and try

rc-update show

and post the results back.

HTH,
Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[CJoeB]

On 10/10/11 16:17, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:06 PM, CJoeB <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Today, I went through the install process, had a couple of issues, but
>> was able to figure them out and got to the point where I was supposed to
>> boot into my new system.  I got the boot menu, the boot process seemed
>> to be okay, but when I got to the point where I assumed I should get a
>> command prompt to finish up, all I got was a weird screen that was half
>> black and half fuzzy with a bunch of colours (sorry, I can describe this
>> any better).  I tried recompiling the kernel thinking it was a problem
>> that I had created during the initial compilation, but that ended with
>> the same result.
>>
>> The computer is a Dell XPS 8300
>> It has a Radeon graphics card, but I wouldn't think this would be an
>> issue until I tried to install X.
>>
>> Does anyone have any ideas?
> Try dropping framebuffer console drivers?
I'll try this, but I REALLY want those cute little penguins that appear
when the computer is booting!  :-)
> Also, what exact model of Radeon?
The specs that came with the computer say its and AMD Radeon HD 6450 1GB
DDR3

Regards,

Colleen


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[Michael Mol]

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:31 PM, CJoeB <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/10/11 16:17, Michael Mol wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:06 PM, CJoeB <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Today, I went through the install process, had a couple of issues, but
>>> was able to figure them out and got to the point where I was supposed to
>>> boot into my new system.  I got the boot menu, the boot process seemed
>>> to be okay, but when I got to the point where I assumed I should get a
>>> command prompt to finish up, all I got was a weird screen that was half
>>> black and half fuzzy with a bunch of colours (sorry, I can describe this
>>> any better).  I tried recompiling the kernel thinking it was a problem
>>> that I had created during the initial compilation, but that ended with
>>> the same result.
>>>
>>> The computer is a Dell XPS 8300
>>> It has a Radeon graphics card, but I wouldn't think this would be an
>>> issue until I tried to install X.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any ideas?
>> Try dropping framebuffer console drivers?
> I'll try this, but I REALLY want those cute little penguins that appear
> when the computer is booting!  :-)
>> Also, what exact model of Radeon?
> The specs that came with the computer say its and AMD Radeon HD 6450 1GB
> DDR3

If you can get the exact line from lspci or dmesg to know what the
system sees it as, that'd be ideal for checking on compatibility
issues.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[Mark Knecht]

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:31 PM, CJoeB <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/10/11 16:17, Michael Mol wrote:
<SNIP>
>> Try dropping framebuffer console drivers?
> I'll try this, but I REALLY want those cute little penguins that appear
> when the computer is booting!  :-)

If it works when you boot from the install CD then there has to be a
way to get it working with your setup.

Boot again from the install CD and look around very, very carefully at
how things are set up there and look for differences.

I've never bothered getting that working myself but I agree it would be fun. :-)

- Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[Mick]

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On Monday 10 Oct 2011 21:06:34 CJoeB wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> I hope someone will be able to "lead me by the nose" here.
> 
> For a number of weeks now, I have been trying to install Gentoo on my
> new desktop.  I kept running into issues and due to time constraints
> when I was installing, I put off trying to resolve them.
> 
> Today, I went through the install process, had a couple of issues, but
> was able to figure them out and got to the point where I was supposed to
> boot into my new system.  I got the boot menu, the boot process seemed
> to be okay, but when I got to the point where I assumed I should get a
> command prompt to finish up, all I got was a weird screen that was half
> black and half fuzzy with a bunch of colours (sorry, I can describe this
> any better).  I tried recompiling the kernel thinking it was a problem
> that I had created during the initial compilation, but that ended with
> the same result.
> 
> The computer is a Dell XPS 8300
> It has a Radeon graphics card, but I wouldn't think this would be an
> issue until I tried to install X.
> 
> Does anyone have any ideas?

As others have already suggested most likely the problem is something to do 
with the way you have set up KMS for radeon and the way you have configured the 
firmware.

Read this page (with special attention of the framebuffer part) and then post 
back if you are having problems:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml

At the same time you will most likely sort out your Xorg problem (which you 
haven't come across yet).  ;-)
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[David Abbott]

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:31 PM, CJoeB <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/10/11 16:17, Michael Mol wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:06 PM, CJoeB <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Today, I went through the install process, had a couple of issues, but
>>> was able to figure them out and got to the point where I was supposed to
>>> boot into my new system.  I got the boot menu, the boot process seemed
>>> to be okay, but when I got to the point where I assumed I should get a
>>> command prompt to finish up, all I got was a weird screen that was half
>>> black and half fuzzy with a bunch of colours (sorry, I can describe this
>>> any better).  I tried recompiling the kernel thinking it was a problem
>>> that I had created during the initial compilation, but that ended with
>>> the same result.
I would enable kms;
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Radeon#Kernel_Modesetting_.28KMS.29
http://forums-web2.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-831521-start-0.html
HTH
David

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[Alan Mackenzie]

Hi, Colleen

> I'll try this, but I REALLY want those cute little penguins that appear
> when the computer is booting!  :-)

Make sure this is configured in your kernel.  The config option ought to
be called "CONFIG_BOOTUP_TUX", but it isn't - it's called "Bootup Logo"
and is located at Device Drivers/Graphics Support/Bootup Logo.

I think you get one penguin for each core your processor has.

> Regards,

> Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[CJoeB]

On 10/10/11 17:05, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> Hi, Colleen
>
>> I'll try this, but I REALLY want those cute little penguins that appear
>> when the computer is booting!  :-)
> Make sure this is configured in your kernel.  The config option ought to
> be called "CONFIG_BOOTUP_TUX", but it isn't - it's called "Bootup Logo"
> and is located at Device Drivers/Graphics Support/Bootup Logo.
>
> I think you get one penguin for each core your processor has.

Well, still no penguins, but I did get it to boot to the command
prompt.  Still, it's back to the drawing board 'cause now I have an
network issue and I thought I had copied the working
/mnt/gentoo/etc/resolv.conf file to the /etc/resolv.conf file in the
chroot'd environment.

I'll keep plugging away.  Thanks for the suggestions.

Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[Graham Murray]

CJoeB <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> writes:

> I got the boot menu, the boot process seemed
> to be okay, but when I got to the point where I assumed I should get a
> command prompt to finish up, all I got was a weird screen that was half
> black and half fuzzy with a bunch of colours (sorry, I can describe this
> any better).  I tried recompiling the kernel thinking it was a problem
> that I had created during the initial compilation, but that ended with
> the same result.

That sounds as though the kernel framebuffer is setting the graphics
card to a mode (resolution, refresh rate etc) that the monitor does not
support. 

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[CJoeB]

Hi guys,

I'm still struggling with this.  Gave up last weekend and haven't had
time until now.  Thought I had it going when I got a command prompt and
then, networking wasn't working.  Anyway, more details .....

On 10/10/11 16:43, David Abbott wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:31 PM, CJoeB <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 10/10/11 16:17, Michael Mol wrote:
>>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:06 PM, CJoeB <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Today, I went through the install process, had a couple of issues, but
>>>> was able to figure them out and got to the point where I was supposed to
>>>> boot into my new system.  I got the boot menu, the boot process seemed
>>>> to be okay, but when I got to the point where I assumed I should get a
>>>> command prompt to finish up, all I got was a weird screen that was half
>>>> black and half fuzzy with a bunch of colours (sorry, I can describe this
>>>> any better).  I tried recompiling the kernel thinking it was a problem
>>>> that I had created during the initial compilation, but that ended with
>>>> the same result.
> I would enable kms;
> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Radeon#Kernel_Modesetting_.28KMS.29
> http://forums-web2.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-831521-start-0.html

I booted to the Gentoo install CD, went through all the steps to make
sure I hadn't missed anything.  I followed the directions on the above
link for my Radeon card.  When I existed the 'chroot'd' environment and
rebooted, the system seemed to hang - the last few lines that appear on
the screen are:

[drm] Loading CAICOS Microcode
Refined TSC clocksource calibration:  3392.289 MHz
Switching to clocksource tsc

I took someone else's advice who responded to my original post and got
the output from dmesg after the install CD booted.  Below is the entire
listing related to the video section:

vesafb: mode is 1024x768x16, linelength=2048, pages=9
vesafb:scrolling:redraw
vesafb:Truecolor:size=0;5:6:5, shift=0:11:5:0
vesafb:framebuffer at 0xd0000000, mapped to 0xffffc90010100000, using
3072k, total 16384k
console: switching to colour framebuffer device 128x48
fb0: VESA VGA framebuffer device

I really understand very little of what this is telling me except for
the screen resolution and I get that there are hex code references

in my grub.conf file the video line is as follows:

vga=-0X31B video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap

I read somewhere that for radeon card you use the above statement as
opposed to:

video=uvesafb:mtrr:ywrap,1920x1080@60

Documentation for my monitor states that the max resolution is
1920x1080@60 Hz

Can anyone help me out here?

Thanks in advance,

Colleen


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[Michael Schreckenbauer]

On Saturday, 15. October 2011 16:07:42 CJoeB wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> I'm still struggling with this.  Gave up last weekend and haven't had
> time until now.  Thought I had it going when I got a command prompt and
> then, networking wasn't working.  Anyway, more details .....
> 
> On 10/10/11 16:43, David Abbott wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:31 PM, CJoeB <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 10/10/11 16:17, Michael Mol wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:06 PM, CJoeB <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Today, I went through the install process, had a couple of issues,
> >>>> but
> >>>> was able to figure them out and got to the point where I was
> >>>> supposed to boot into my new system.  I got the boot menu, the
> >>>> boot process seemed to be okay, but when I got to the point where
> >>>> I assumed I should get a command prompt to finish up, all I got
> >>>> was a weird screen that was half black and half fuzzy with a
> >>>> bunch of colours (sorry, I can describe this any better).  I
> >>>> tried recompiling the kernel thinking it was a problem that I had
> >>>> created during the initial compilation, but that ended with the
> >>>> same result.
> > 
> > I would enable kms;
> > http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Radeon#Kernel_Modesetting_.28KMS.29
> > http://forums-web2.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-831521-start-0.html
> 
> I booted to the Gentoo install CD, went through all the steps to make
> sure I hadn't missed anything.  I followed the directions on the above
> link for my Radeon card.  When I existed the 'chroot'd' environment and
> rebooted, the system seemed to hang - the last few lines that appear on
> the screen are:
> 
> [drm] Loading CAICOS Microcode
> Refined TSC clocksource calibration:  3392.289 MHz
> Switching to clocksource tsc
> 
> I took someone else's advice who responded to my original post and got
> the output from dmesg after the install CD booted.  Below is the entire
> listing related to the video section:
> 
> vesafb: mode is 1024x768x16, linelength=2048, pages=9
> vesafb:scrolling:redraw
> vesafb:Truecolor:size=0;5:6:5, shift=0:11:5:0
> vesafb:framebuffer at 0xd0000000, mapped to 0xffffc90010100000, using
> 3072k, total 16384k
> console: switching to colour framebuffer device 128x48
> fb0: VESA VGA framebuffer device

you are using vesafb.

> I really understand very little of what this is telling me except for
> the screen resolution and I get that there are hex code references
> 
> in my grub.conf file the video line is as follows:
> 
> vga=-0X31B video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap
> 
> I read somewhere that for radeon card you use the above statement as
> opposed to:
> 
> video=uvesafb:mtrr:ywrap,1920x1080@60
> 
> Documentation for my monitor states that the max resolution is
> 1920x1080@60 Hz

To get this resolution that early you need kms.

Check your kernel-config:

CONFIG_DRM_RADEON=m
CONFIG_DRM_RADEON_KMS=y
CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE=y
# CONFIG_FB_RADEON is not set

Then you need
radeon.modeset=1
instead of the vga=... stuff in your grub.conf.

Also, see:
http://www.x.org/wiki/radeonBuildHowTo#Kernel-basedModeSetting

> Can anyone help me out here?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Colleen

Hth,
Michael

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[CJoeB]

On 10/15/11 16:21, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
>
>> Documentation for my monitor states that the max resolution is
>> 1920x1080@60 Hz
> To get this resolution that early you need kms.
>
> Check your kernel-config:
>
> CONFIG_DRM_RADEON=m
> CONFIG_DRM_RADEON_KMS=y
> CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE=y
> # CONFIG_FB_RADEON is not set
Okay, I had this configured properly
> Then you need
> radeon.modeset=1
> instead of the vga=... stuff in your grub.conf.
>
> Also, see:
> http://www.x.org/wiki/radeonBuildHowTo#Kernel-basedModeSetting
This must have been the issue because when I put the radeon.modeset=1 in
my grub.conf file, I booted to the command prompt.

Still no penguins on bootup and I had the when booting to the install
CD.  I'm pretty sure I have what I need to have in the kernel to get them.

Thanks for the help!  :-)

Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[James Broadhead]

On 15 October 2011 23:44, CJoeB <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
> (...)

If this is your first install, is FrameBuffer (pretty consoles) really
a vital component of getting your machine up and running?

If not, then you should not have any fb driver in your grub.conf (and
perhaps add 'nofb' to your kernel options line.

If it is, then by far the easiest way of getting it to work is by
using the same driver for X as you do for the framebuffer (allowing
Kernel Modeswitching, or KMS). In the case of radeon cards, this can
be done with the open-source driver, as described by others.

Take a look at
en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Radeon
for a pretty comprehensive guide. I maintain it, so if you find
anything hard to follow, please edit the page or post here describing
what should be improved.

Good luck -

JB

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[CJoeB]

On 10/16/11 08:06, James Broadhead wrote:

Thanks for the input.  This issue is somewhat resolved.
> On 15 October 2011 23:44, CJoeB <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> (...)
> If this is your first install, is FrameBuffer (pretty consoles) really
> a vital component of getting your machine up and running?
Not my first install - I've been running Gentoo exclusively since 2004. 
Framebuffer is not absolutely necessary I guess, but I really would like
those penguins!  What can I say?  I'm female and I like animals!  LOL

Anyway, I got past the issue I was having where the boot hung.  Now, I'm
on to another issue.

Regards,

Colleen


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[Dale]

CJoeB wrote:
> On 10/16/11 08:06, James Broadhead wrote:
>
> Thanks for the input.  This issue is somewhat resolved.
>> On 15 October 2011 23:44, CJoeB<colleen.beamer@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> (...)
>> If this is your first install, is FrameBuffer (pretty consoles) really
>> a vital component of getting your machine up and running?
> Not my first install - I've been running Gentoo exclusively since 2004.
> Framebuffer is not absolutely necessary I guess, but I really would like
> those penguins!  What can I say?  I'm female and I like animals!  LOL
>
> Anyway, I got past the issue I was having where the boot hung.  Now, I'm
> on to another issue.
>
> Regards,
>
> Colleen
>
>

Wow, there is a Gentoo lady here.  Howdy. < tips hat >  I thought I 
remembered there being one here but wasn't sure.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[Alan McKinnon]

On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:14:45 -0500
Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> CJoeB wrote:
> > On 10/16/11 08:06, James Broadhead wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the input.  This issue is somewhat resolved.
> >> On 15 October 2011 23:44, CJoeB<colleen.beamer@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >>> (...)
> >> If this is your first install, is FrameBuffer (pretty consoles)
> >> really a vital component of getting your machine up and running?
> > Not my first install - I've been running Gentoo exclusively since
> > 2004. Framebuffer is not absolutely necessary I guess, but I really
> > would like those penguins!  What can I say?  I'm female and I like
> > animals!  LOL
> >
> > Anyway, I got past the issue I was having where the boot hung.
> > Now, I'm on to another issue.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Colleen
> >
> >
> 
> Wow, there is a Gentoo lady here.  Howdy. < tips hat >  I thought I 
> remembered there being one here but wasn't sure.


Colleen's been here longer than I have :-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[CJoeB]

On 10/16/11 16:19, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:14:45 -0500
> Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> CJoeB wrote:
>>> On 10/16/11 08:06, James Broadhead wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the input.  This issue is somewhat resolved.
>>>> On 15 October 2011 23:44, CJoeB<colleen.beamer@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>> (...)
>>>> If this is your first install, is FrameBuffer (pretty consoles)
>>>> really a vital component of getting your machine up and running?
>>> Not my first install - I've been running Gentoo exclusively since
>>> 2004. Framebuffer is not absolutely necessary I guess, but I really
>>> would like those penguins!  What can I say?  I'm female and I like
>>> animals!  LOL
>>>
>>> Anyway, I got past the issue I was having where the boot hung.
>>> Now, I'm on to another issue.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Colleen
>>>
>>>
>> Wow, there is a Gentoo lady here.  Howdy. < tips hat >  I thought I 
>> remembered there being one here but wasn't sure.
>
> Colleen's been here longer than I have :-)
Maybe, but I'm not as technical as some of you guys.  I just have an
affection for computers and I'm a control freak - that's why I like
Gentoo!  :-)



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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 22:19:27 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> Colleen's been here longer than I have :-)

You shouldn't make such statements about a lady :P


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[Alan McKinnon]

On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 22:22:30 +0100
Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 22:19:27 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> 
> > Colleen's been here longer than I have :-)
> 
> You shouldn't make such statements about a lady :P
> 
> 


True, but I'm a geek :-)


Social subtleties (and even manners as a whole) is something that goes
right over my head....


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[CJoeB]

On 10/16/11 17:22, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 22:19:27 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
>> Colleen's been here longer than I have :-)
> You shouldn't make such statements about a lady :P
>
>
That gave me a huge laugh!  Good considering the trials and tribulations
I've gone through with my networking issue.  However, Alan could
possibly be right! "I ain't no spring chicken"!  LOL

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[Mick]

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On Sunday 16 Oct 2011 22:56:36 CJoeB wrote:
> On 10/16/11 17:22, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 22:19:27 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >> Colleen's been here longer than I have :-)
> > 
> > You shouldn't make such statements about a lady :P
> 
> That gave me a huge laugh!  Good considering the trials and tribulations
> I've gone through with my networking issue.  However, Alan could
> possibly be right! "I ain't no spring chicken"!  LOL
> 
> Colleen

There were two women still active on the list on the last count, Colleen being 
one of them.

There were a couple more back in 2004/05 but have dropped off since and so has 
my memory!  Can't recall their names.  :-(
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[CJoeB]

On 10/16/11 16:19, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:14:45 -0500
> Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> CJoeB wrote:
>>> On 10/16/11 08:06, James Broadhead wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the input.  This issue is somewhat resolved.
>>>> On 15 October 2011 23:44, CJoeB<colleen.beamer@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>> (...)
>>> Not my first install - I've been running Gentoo exclusively since
>>> 2004. Framebuffer is not absolutely necessary I guess, but I really
>>> would like those penguins!  What can I say?  I'm female and I like
>>> animals!  LOL
>>>
Well, still no penguins, but I won't belabour that issue.  However,
something is still screwy, methinks!

I got X installed and kdebase-meta (haven't gone farther than that)
without much of an issue.  However, now when I exit my xsession, the
screen goes fuzzy coloured before the scrolling of the services shutting
down starts.  I can live with this, but if anyone has any ideas, let me
know.

BTW, I had forgotten to run 'eselect opengl set ati' which I've always
done when configuring X.  However, when I do this, it returns
'Unrecognized option:  ati'

You all are probably thinking I'm nuts now, but I thought this my solve
the issue as stated about.  I've checked an rechecked the Gentoo ATI
Guide and I've done everything it says.

Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[Adam Carter]

> BTW, I had forgotten to run 'eselect opengl set ati' which I've always
> done when configuring X.  However, when I do this, it returns
> 'Unrecognized option:  ati'
>
> You all are probably thinking I'm nuts now, but I thought this my solve
> the issue as stated about.  I've checked an rechecked the Gentoo ATI
> Guide and I've done everything it says.

Try eselect opengl list to show what's available. IIRC ati will use
fglrx. There may be an option called radeon, which you can used
instead.

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[CJoeB]

On 10/16/11 20:38, Adam Carter wrote:
>> BTW, I had forgotten to run 'eselect opengl set ati' which I've always
>> done when configuring X.  However, when I do this, it returns
>> 'Unrecognized option:  ati'
>>
>> You all are probably thinking I'm nuts now, but I thought this my solve
>> the issue as stated about.  I've checked an rechecked the Gentoo ATI
>> Guide and I've done everything it says.
> Try eselect opengl list to show what's available. IIRC ati will use
> fglrx. There may be an option called radeon, which you can used
> instead.
>
>
I had already done this and the only option that is listed is 'xorg-x11 *'

The * is actually included in the output and I was too chicken to try
this.  I don't understand why ati or radeon isn't listed 'cause I
followed the Gentoo ATI Guide and X Configuration Guide.

Regards,

Colleen


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[Andrey Moshbear]

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 21:46, CJoeB <colleen.beamer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/16/11 20:38, Adam Carter wrote:
>>> BTW, I had forgotten to run 'eselect opengl set ati' which I've always
>>> done when configuring X.  However, when I do this, it returns
>>> 'Unrecognized option:  ati'
>>>
>>> You all are probably thinking I'm nuts now, but I thought this my solve
>>> the issue as stated about.  I've checked an rechecked the Gentoo ATI
>>> Guide and I've done everything it says.
>> Try eselect opengl list to show what's available. IIRC ati will use
>> fglrx. There may be an option called radeon, which you can used
>> instead.
>>
>>
> I had already done this and the only option that is listed is 'xorg-x11 *'
>
> The * is actually included in the output and I was too chicken to try
> this.  I don't understand why ati or radeon isn't listed 'cause I
> followed the Gentoo ATI Guide and X Configuration Guide.
>

Is your ati card covered under radeon (classic) or radeonhd? Unless
you need hardware 3d, fglrx is too much effort.
More bitchy than nvidia, too. (Unselect 'Use OpenGL' v2 in Destkop
Effects->Advanced to keep kwin from crashing).
Also, LXDE looks prettier than KDE4 without OpenGL, and XRender
disables half the plugins because they require OpenGL.
A prime example of this is the desktop cube.

-- m0shbear

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[Adam Carter]

>> The * is actually included in the output and I was too chicken to try
>> this.  I don't understand why ati or radeon isn't listed 'cause I
>> followed the Gentoo ATI Guide and X Configuration Guide.

Do you have the opengl USE flag set?

<SNIP>, fglrx is too much effort.

fglrx is no trouble at all, but you need to be running a recent card
as it doesn't support the older chipsets.

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[Dale]

CJoeB wrote:
> On 10/16/11 16:19, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:14:45 -0500
>> Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> CJoeB wrote:
>>>> On 10/16/11 08:06, James Broadhead wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the input.  This issue is somewhat resolved.
>>>>> On 15 October 2011 23:44, CJoeB<colleen.beamer@gmail.com>   wrote:
>>>>>> (...)
>>>>> If this is your first install, is FrameBuffer (pretty consoles)
>>>>> really a vital component of getting your machine up and running?
>>>> Not my first install - I've been running Gentoo exclusively since
>>>> 2004. Framebuffer is not absolutely necessary I guess, but I really
>>>> would like those penguins!  What can I say?  I'm female and I like
>>>> animals!  LOL
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I got past the issue I was having where the boot hung.
>>>> Now, I'm on to another issue.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Colleen
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Wow, there is a Gentoo lady here.  Howdy.<  tips hat>   I thought I
>>> remembered there being one here but wasn't sure.
>> Colleen's been here longer than I have :-)
> Maybe, but I'm not as technical as some of you guys.  I just have an
> affection for computers and I'm a control freak - that's why I like
> Gentoo!  :-)
>
>
>


That's funny.  Sort of the same here.  First time that init thingy fails 
tho, I may be cured of my control issues.  Then I can go back to a 
binary distro.  lol

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install Issue

[Andrey Moshbear]

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 22:06, Adam Carter <adamcarter3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The * is actually included in the output and I was too chicken to try
>>> this.  I don't understand why ati or radeon isn't listed 'cause I
>>> followed the Gentoo ATI Guide and X Configuration Guide.
>
> Do you have the opengl USE flag set?
>
> <SNIP>, fglrx is too much effort.
>
> fglrx is no trouble at all, but you need to be running a recent card
> as it doesn't support the older chipsets.

It was too buggy for my tastes.