From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RC4pW-0005Ca-79 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 07:26:50 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C8E521C10D; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 07:26:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.213.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A5021C069 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2011 07:25:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxk30 with SMTP id 30so4616371yxk.40 for ; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 00:25:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=pBWZHs5rIgfEzTgo+V4rAlohneFl4fkP/1lG0geRHfc=; b=h0WhiOUS/zj3bKXVGG+/7K/LZveyMFoek1WPcyh4cNevjAmeJiufvNbVISgQZ+1sHG eST0xcYYoZMccloAbqcdVQJmLnAdjDbbIvnSYzjVrt9hnIZ3YTZBk+AY44OxaruXsxYD gC1HL4g6orN7g3hwFH0I9BQuFG7muYoUor8mk= Received: by 10.236.131.82 with SMTP id l58mr8100312yhi.90.1317972339537; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 00:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-98-95-215-244.jan.bellsouth.net. [98.95.215.244]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x65sm11670627yhg.18.2011.10.07.00.25.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 07 Oct 2011 00:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E8EA970.6080400@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 02:25:36 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111002 Firefox/7.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.4.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT: change and improvement References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060207030401080503050807" X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: fdff8cd7ff0d18dbe647d10aa14f8f56 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060207030401080503050807 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael Mol wrote: > > > On Oct 6, 2011 11:21 PM, "Dale" > wrote: > > > > Mick wrote: > >> > >> On Thursday 06 Oct 2011 20:42:43 Dale wrote: > >>> > >>> Michael Orlitzky wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 10/06/2011 04:20 AM, Jonas de Buhr wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> most of the "oh it's so weird"-whining often comes from just not > being > >>>>> used to it. flip your door lock upside down - you'll hate it with > >>>>> passion for a week and then you won't even notice. flip it again and > >>>>> the process will repeat. > >>>> > >>>> But if someone else snuck into your house and flipped your locks > every > >>>> week? > >>>> > >>>> This one change won't be catastrophic, but I will probably spend > a good > >>>> eight hours researching, testing, implementing, and documenting > it. In > >>>> the end, *if everything goes according to plan*, stuff will work > exactly > >>>> how it does now. > >>>> > >>>> If Grub were the only package to do this -- fine, whatever. But next > >>>> week it will be something else. I don't know what my point is, but it > >>>> feels good to bitch about it. > >>> > >>> This is how I feel about the initramfs thingy and /usr and /var. What > >>> is next? I am pretty sure it will be something tho. > >> > >> I share your pain. :-( > >> > >> I'm not sure if this a sign of me getting (even) older, or Linux > maturing and > >> in doing so it caters less and less for Gentoo geeky users and more > and more > >> for mainstream ignoramuses. :p > >> > > > > I was thinking more like windoze really. If windoze starts having > mount points like Linux, things could start changing. ^_^ Think > about it, windoze currently has to have its stuff on the C drive and > Linux can be spread out over many drives and you can mount things > wherever you want. Linux is going the way of windoze then windoze > would be going the way of Linux. Weird huh? > > You've been able to do this since at least WinXP. I don't know if that > functionality extends through Win2k and earlier. > > On one hand, you can configure the locations of things like > %PROGRAMFILES% and %SYSTEMROOT%. On the other hand, you can mount a > volume wherever you like. > > I used this to use the same .libpurple directory on a machine > dual-booted between WinXP 32-bit and WinVista 64-bit. A data volume > was mounted at D:\Data, and I had NTFS junctions pointing my > .libpurple on both boots at a directory on that volume. > Hmmmm, this is interesting. My brother has filled up his hard drive and I been planning on reinstalling to a larger drive. Maybe I need to check into this more. He uses XP and I really hate to install windoze. Since he had to spend $8,000.00 on a new mower, his new rig went to second place in the budget. This could be the place for the next couple years. Uhh, he mows grass for a living. Anyway, putting Documents on its own drive would save me some grief. So, windoze is catching up to Linux since Linux is regressing. Man, this is weird. Dale :-) :-) --------------060207030401080503050807 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael Mol wrote:


On Oct 6, 2011 11:21 PM, "Dale" <rdalek1967@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
>
> Mick wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday 06 Oct 2011 20:42:43 Dale wrote:
>>>
>>> Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 10/06/2011 04:20 AM, Jonas de Buhr wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> most of the "oh it's so weird"-whining often comes from just not being
>>>>> used to it. flip your door lock upside down - you'll hate it with
>>>>> passion for a week and then you won't even notice. flip it again and
>>>>> the process will repeat.
>>>>
>>>> But if someone else snuck into your house and flipped your locks every
>>>> week?
>>>>
>>>> This one change won't be catastrophic, but I will probably spend a good
>>>> eight hours researching, testing, implementing, and documenting it. In
>>>> the end, *if everything goes according to plan*, stuff will work exactly
>>>> how it does now.
>>>>
>>>> If Grub were the only package to do this -- fine, whatever. But next
>>>> week it will be something else. I don't know what my point is, but it
>>>> feels good to bitch about it.
>>>
>>> This is how I feel about the initramfs thingy and /usr and /var. =C2=A0What
>>> is next? =C2=A0I am pretty sure it will be something tho.
>>
>> I share your pain. =C2=A0:-(
>>
>> I'm not sure if this a sign of me getting (even) older, or Linux maturing and
>> in doing so it caters less and less for Gentoo geeky users and more and more
>> for mainstream ignoramuses. =C2=A0:p
>>
>
> I was thinking more like windoze really. =C2=A0If windoze st= arts having mount points like Linux, things could start changing. =C2=A0^_^ =C2=A0 Think about it, windoze currently has to have it= s stuff on the C drive and Linux can be spread out over many drives and you can mount things wherever you want. =C2=A0Linux is going the = way of windoze then windoze would be going the way of Linux. =C2=A0We= ird huh?

You've been able to do this since at least WinXP. I don't know if that functionality extends through Win2k and earlier.

On one hand, you can configure the locations of things like %PROGRAMFILES% and %SYSTEMROOT%. On the other hand, you can mount a volume wherever you like.

I used this to use the same .libpurple directory on a machine dual-booted between WinXP 32-bit and WinVista 64-bit. A data volume was mounted at D:\Data, and I had NTFS junctions pointing my .libpurple on both boots at a directory on that volume.


Hmmmm, this is interesting.=C2=A0 My brother has filled up his hard d= rive and I been planning on reinstalling to a larger drive.=C2=A0 Maybe I = need to check into this more.=C2=A0 He uses XP and I really hate to instal= l windoze.=C2=A0 Since he had to spend $8,000.00 on a new mower, his ne= w rig went to second place in the budget.=C2=A0 This could be the place= for the next couple years.=C2=A0 Uhh, he mows grass for a living.=C2=A0 A= nyway, putting Documents on its own drive would save me some grief.=C2=A0
So, windoze is catching up to Linux since Linux is regressing.=C2=A0 = Man, this is weird.=C2=A0

Dale

:-)=C2=A0 :-)=C2=A0
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