From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RBvQr-0001A7-8t for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 21:24:48 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2794621C117; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 21:24:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail2.viabit.com (mail2.viabit.com [65.246.80.16]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38AED21C06F for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 21:23:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.17.29.14] (unknown [65.213.236.242]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail2.viabit.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9529E37ADA for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 17:23:34 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=orlitzky.com; s=mail2; t=1317936214; bh=PAvaeTKARw6xxkk/XCNK+r8rC4Z4kZUJ5wpYgRWR8V4=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GFqV1UM78io0a/YVvP8IQOtknDsXPWgQKaZr6NgFK6Dhsg78dZeCQAlNaFQHaSWGD C9qYdyYfReRBO6p43xP49bVZO9yPHnckcBdC9cdEZLq+gnAmDo42q23rTxZJUTBfTz YL8C74rLb3EIxdOBzcAhu66VXHDiZPQ9HWNqXkgI= Message-ID: <4E8E1C54.4010706@orlitzky.com> Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 17:23:32 -0400 From: Michael Orlitzky User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.20) Gecko/20110923 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.12 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT: change and improvement References: <4E8AD6C4.7070901@gmail.com> <20111005162007.GA5820@badass.gateway.2wire.net> <20111005184721.01af0bda@toxic.dbnet> <201110060018.50015.peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> <20111006102023.4471babe@toxic.dbnet> <4E8E0112.3010208@orlitzky.com> <20111006230040.04f9af0f@toxic.dbnet> In-Reply-To: <20111006230040.04f9af0f@toxic.dbnet> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 4f557937a73da63cd1e3b64c87fff0b5 On 10/06/2011 05:00 PM, Jonas de Buhr wrote: > Am Thu, 06 Oct 2011 15:27:14 -0400 > schrieb Michael Orlitzky : > >> On 10/06/2011 04:20 AM, Jonas de Buhr wrote: >>> >>> most of the "oh it's so weird"-whining often comes from just not >>> being used to it. flip your door lock upside down - you'll hate it >>> with passion for a week and then you won't even notice. flip it >>> again and the process will repeat. >>> >> >> But if someone else snuck into your house and flipped your locks >> every week? >> >> This one change won't be catastrophic, but I will probably spend a >> good eight hours researching, testing, implementing, and documenting >> it. In the end, *if everything goes according to plan*, stuff will >> work exactly how it does now. > > nothing forces you to switch to grub2. > True in theory, but not in practice. Legacy grub will go away eventually. If we have some grub-legacy and some grub2 installs, we have to support (document, test, take out to dinner occasionally) both, which is probably going to be more effort than just moving to grub2 after I figure out how it works. Either way is going to require a non-zero amount of work, while zero is the amount of work I would prefer to do.