From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R56x5-0003B2-14 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 02:17:51 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D09821C10B; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 02:17:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gy0-f181.google.com (mail-gy0-f181.google.com [209.85.160.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B2B21C124 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 02:15:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyd10 with SMTP id 10so5071689gyd.40 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 19:15:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vsbwnsXtLXjo9GNn0/bKMaa5qBcwfh3+Sp7TG1fQmEk=; b=iapc5j/JB0NWaWyMT70hd/9qZuBqC6FEOAhIG1uazATzn6g0pH3XygpiRuUILCM5TB WP95ANHMSvET2kv37h/auHyg7QdRKh+gKd8o6aEWhZJOugLrkWuWQbDVc4OwQp/ZR82K K17ySGSz2jW1mBG9/J1Yeu5VlS0BOmP5rw+GI= Received: by 10.236.190.193 with SMTP id e41mr5927855yhn.118.1316312159539; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 19:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-89-228.jan.bellsouth.net. [65.0.89.228]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h41sm3475847yhk.18.2011.09.17.19.15.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 17 Sep 2011 19:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E75545D.8060901@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:15:57 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110917 Firefox/6.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.3.3 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Making a init thingy. Step two I guess. References: <4E74FCC5.5070000@gmail.com> <20110918010045.35c6a6c5@rohan.example.com> In-Reply-To: <20110918010045.35c6a6c5@rohan.example.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 53ec892beb07a8d202cf30fc4dd2e6ca Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sat, 17 Sep 2011 13:27:45 -0700 > Mark Knecht wrote: > >>> Then I get confused. I get to Applications and I'm sort of lost >>> here. In there it talks about copying nano and its friends over to >>> the init directory. Then below that it says to use busybox. Well, >>> which is it? Do I do both of those or just one? >>> >> It's been a while for me but I believe it's both. I think busybox is >> the thing that gives you command line tools like cd, ls, pwd, etc. >> However you also can include applications in your initramfs that give >> you more access to the hardware or the net. > True. > > Busybox is a tiny userland implementing most of the common options for > most of the common Unix commands. When you log into your ADSL > router/modem and get a shell, it's probably busybox running there, > not GNU util-linux stuff. > > Binary distros often put busybox in their initrds as it doubles up as a > rescue environment and busybox is many times smaller than the full GNU > stuff. It's up to you if you want to do that or not; if all you use an > initrd for is a convenient place to store drivers to be able to > mount /usr, then you will have no need for busybox in it. > Unless something goes wrong. You know how I am. Murphy's law and all. lol Dale :-) :-)