From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R3c9B-0005dW-6O for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:12:09 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE57321C317; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:11:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from basement.kutulu.org (187.250.102.97.cfl.res.rr.com [97.102.250.187]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302D121C201 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:10:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (basement.kutulu.org [127.0.0.1]) by basement.kutulu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53F3122005 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:10:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at kutulu.org Received: from basement.kutulu.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (basement.kutulu.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QGHPuuVn7dsZ for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:10:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.69.4] (wombat.kutulu.org [192.168.69.4]) by basement.kutulu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0FF122004 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:10:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4E6FE2CD.2070403@kutulu.org> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:10:05 -0400 From: Mike Edenfield User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110905 Thunderbird/7.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr References: <20110912150248.GB3599@acm.acm> <2874055.6JTUjtRtEH@pc> <20110912171737.GC3599@acm.acm> <4E6F4EC6.5090608@kutulu.org> <20110913134554.57fe73c0@digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20110913134554.57fe73c0@digimed.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 42e4e484b7f4ff7ab89a157814534445 On 9/13/2011 8:45 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 08:38:30 -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: > >>> Well, I'm a hacker. udev is free source, therefore fair game. I >>> don't intend to put up with this nonsense without a fight. As far as >>> I can make out, this is just one guy, Kay Sievers, who's on a power >>> trip. Are there any indications at all that he actually talked to >>> anybody in the wide world before making such a far reaching >>> decision? >> >> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken > > Apart from vague references to "us" and "many upstream developers" there > is no real indication that this is motivated by any more than the one > individual, from his RedHatesque perspective. To be fair, there are *two* names in the wiki edit history :) Though I also recall Mr. Poettering's name being mentioned elsewhere in this thread, also in an "anti-everything-thats-not-Fedora" context, though I have no personal experience in that arena. --Mike