From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R2v1V-00048t-E1 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 01:09:26 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F0DC821C05A; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 01:09:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gy0-f181.google.com (mail-gy0-f181.google.com [209.85.160.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65B6421C062 for ; Mon, 12 Sep 2011 01:07:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyd10 with SMTP id 10so3977108gyd.40 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:07:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XCnFbb3f9vs72BUpzkrpkoCBfTcaZEGeuYquevDdhjQ=; b=JsQmZ0i7S0aLsyAJDnVn043Wj75tMgg3SACUayWYsEC0GlBVv0PVvAWJBnoVDj4KIG 406IAmFrLWJOpCLzLNAhdWqd0AUCLOW3FGb8pefWdsGp48hbxaX5udmIrbyE6jc5q5Sg OBTU/NRd5JEzKmDwexyMHiBx3xRv33tPnc6P8= Received: by 10.90.22.40 with SMTP id 40mr3611362agv.87.1315789650861; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:07:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-89-228.jan.bellsouth.net [65.0.89.228]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f20sm68730anf.23.2011.09.11.18.07.29 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:07:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E6D5B50.5050906@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:07:28 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110829 Firefox/6.0 SeaMonkey/2.3.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [off-topic] - can /var be placed in a separate partition? References: <4E6D4A44.3050804@gmail.com> <1315787335.57212.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1315787335.57212.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: c42ba651693a82012e5dedffff6117a4 Albert W. Hopkins wrote: > > On Sunday, September 11 at 18:54 (-0500), Dale said: > >> I think I saw it mentioned on -dev that some time shortly /usr >> and /var >> will be needed on / or you will need the init* thingy to boot. >> That's >> was my understanding of this mess. So, if you are about to do a >> install >> that needs /var on its own partition, I would ask a dev to see how >> you >> should plan. I could have misunderstood but I'm pretty sure it's >> coming. It may also depend on what you are going to be running too. >> I >> mention because no need doing it one way now and having to fix it >> later. That sucks! >> >> That said, I have /var on its own partition and mine boots fine, >> although I haven't rebooted in a week or so. I don't think the >> change >> has happened yet but is coming. I may have a different answer in a >> month or so. ;-) >> >> Dale >> > Hmm, that doesn't smell right to me. What I think you may have heard is > about /run. systemd and some other things are preferring to > move /var/run to /run. The reason being is that /var does not have to > be on the root fs. sysdemd needs /run early (before mounting > filesystems) so the idea was to put /var/run on the rootfs, thus /run. > > I don't think /usr should or ever will be required to be on the rootfs. > That's just dumb. The reason we have /bin /sbin, etc. is so that /usr > need not be on the rootfs. It doesn't make sense to change that well > known/established notion. > > See also the FHS. > Have you been here the last week or so? We have been discussing this change for that long. I got the info from -dev. Alex posted the same so I guess I was reading it right. I agree it is dumb but that doesn't appear to sway the devs a bit. Dale :-) :-)