From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R2giO-0006dc-9N for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 09:52:40 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AE41A21C10E; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 09:52:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.alltele.net (m1.alltele.net [85.30.0.4]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0346321C0A0 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 09:51:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([87.227.57.71]) by smtp.alltele.net (IceWarp 10.3.2) with ESMTP id USK62204 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 11:51:04 +0200 Message-ID: <4E6C8488.7070009@coolmail.se> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 11:51:04 +0200 From: pk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.20) Gecko/20110901 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.12 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot References: <201108191109.34984.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <20110910093659.2f2fdf58@rohan> <201109101124.15694.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <4E6B8BB8.7040103@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4E6B8BB8.7040103@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.77 required=7.00 tests=LOCALPART_IN_SUBJECT=1.56,RATWARE_RCVD_BONUS_SPC=1.00,MR_NOT_ATTRIBUTED_IP=0.20,NO_RDNS2=0.01,MR_DIFF_MID=1.00 version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (1.1) on smtp.alltele.net X-CTCH: RefID="str=0001.0A0B0204.4E6C8488.00CE,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0"; Spam="Unknown"; VOD="Unknown" X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 4a6e0817f8772ecd4ef91ace18e6f7f8 On 2011-09-10 18:09, Dale wrote: > From my understanding, the dev is not listening. That is another thing > that bothers me. When devs stop listening to users, that causes a AFAIU he doesn't listen to people not running RHEL/Fedora (or any of the big binary distros). For a binary distro, that most likely already are using an initrd thingie, this works fine. In my mind it also makes it more difficult to support your own kernel (patches etc.) under these binary distros making you more dependent on the distro supplier. If you want control of what goes into your machine then this works less well... Now if you were a _big_ customer of RHEL that wanted to keep udev working like it currently does I think you might have some more leverage (i.e. if the developer refuses to keep things working, then someone at Red Hat would probably step in at the benefit of their customer and do the right thing(tm)). Best regards Peter K