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From: pk <peterk2@coolmail.se>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 11:51:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E6C8488.7070009@coolmail.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E6B8BB8.7040103@gmail.com>

On 2011-09-10 18:09, Dale wrote:

> From my understanding, the dev is not listening.  That is another thing
> that bothers me.  When devs stop listening to users, that causes a

AFAIU he doesn't listen to people not running RHEL/Fedora (or any of the
big binary distros). For a binary distro, that most likely already are
using an initrd thingie, this works fine. In my mind it also makes it
more difficult to support your own kernel (patches etc.) under these
binary distros making you more dependent on the distro supplier. If you
want control of what goes into your machine then this works less well...
Now if you were a _big_ customer of RHEL that wanted to keep udev
working like it currently does I think you might have some more leverage
(i.e. if the developer refuses to keep things working, then someone at
Red Hat would probably step in at the benefit of their customer and do
the right thing(tm)).

Best regards

Peter K



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-09-11  9:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 231+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-18 18:59 [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot frares
2011-08-18 19:08 ` András Csányi
2011-08-19 12:42   ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2011-08-19 19:38     ` Francesco Talamona
2011-08-18 19:13 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Mol
2011-08-19  5:33   ` Graham Murray
2011-08-19  1:44 ` Matthew Finkel
2011-08-19  2:27 ` Mark Knecht
2011-08-19 10:09   ` Mick
2011-08-19 13:12     ` frares
2011-08-19 13:41       ` Gregory Woodbury
2011-08-19 22:08         ` Dale
2011-08-20  7:04           ` Mick
2011-08-20  7:17             ` Dale
2011-08-20  8:29               ` Alan McKinnon
2011-08-20  8:48                 ` Dale
2011-08-20  8:57                   ` Alan McKinnon
2011-08-20 12:55                     ` Mick
2011-09-06 23:06                     ` Dale
2011-09-07  5:09                       ` William Hubbs
2011-09-07  5:24                         ` Dale
2011-09-07 17:23                           ` Dan Johansson
2011-09-07 17:52                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-07 18:09                               ` Michael Mol
2011-09-07 18:28                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-07 19:07                                   ` Michael Mol
2011-09-07 19:10                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-07 19:19                                     ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-07 19:24                                       ` Michael Mol
2011-09-07 19:27                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-07 22:54                               ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-07 23:04                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-07 23:39                                   ` Michael Mol
2011-09-08  3:23                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 10:11                                       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 15:32                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 20:24                                           ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 20:37                                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 21:03                                               ` Dale
2011-09-08 22:55                                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-09  2:55                                                   ` Dale
2011-09-09 15:29                                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-09  9:10                                                   ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-08 17:30                                       ` pk
2011-09-08 18:40                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-09  5:04                                           ` pk
2011-09-07 23:55                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-08  3:30                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08  3:39                                       ` Dale
2011-09-08 14:51                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 15:15                                           ` Michael Mol
2011-09-08 15:40                                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 15:58                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-08 16:11                                               ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 16:45                                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 17:11                                                   ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 17:22                                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 20:05                                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 20:23                                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 20:43                                                         ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 20:48                                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 21:04                                                             ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 21:11                                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 22:36                                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 23:23                                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 23:34                                                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-09 11:35                                                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 21:29                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-08 21:44                                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 22:06                                                               ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-09  8:06                                                                 ` [gentoo-user] " Nicolas Sebrecht
2011-09-09 10:03                                                                   ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-12  8:40                                                                     ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2011-09-12  9:18                                                                       ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-12 16:50                                                                         ` Dale
2011-09-08 22:31                                                               ` [gentoo-user] " Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-08 23:05                                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 21:04                                                         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 20:40                                                       ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 20:56                                                         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 21:06                                                           ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 21:38                                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 22:28                                                               ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 23:01                                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 17:35                                           ` pk
2011-09-08 17:47                                             ` Michael Mol
2011-09-08 18:11                                               ` pk
2011-09-08 19:01                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 19:40                                                 ` Michael Mol
2011-09-09  9:39                                                 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-08 18:41                                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-09  5:18                                               ` pk
2011-09-08  7:59                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-08 15:08                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08  7:37                                     ` [gentoo-user] " Alberto Luaces
2011-09-08  8:17                                       ` Alberto Luaces
2011-09-08  1:37                                 ` [gentoo-user] " David W Noon
2011-09-08  2:49                                   ` Dale
2011-09-08  3:33                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08  8:09                                     ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 15:13                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 16:06                                         ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 16:34                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 17:01                                             ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 17:18                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 17:45                                                 ` Michael Mol
2011-09-08 19:00                                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 19:37                                                     ` Michael Mol
2011-09-08 20:03                                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 20:57                                                         ` Michael Mol
2011-09-09  8:11                                                         ` Paul Colquhoun
2011-09-09  8:53                                                           ` Dale
2011-09-09  9:15                                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-10  1:25                                                               ` Dale
2011-09-10  1:32                                                                 ` Michael Mol
2011-09-10  1:58                                                                   ` Dale
2011-09-10  7:30                                                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-10  7:54                                                                       ` Dale
2011-09-10 10:00                                                                         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-10 14:59                                                                           ` Dale
2011-09-10 15:52                                                                             ` Pandu Poluan
2011-09-10 16:34                                                                             ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-10 21:15                                                                               ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-10 21:28                                                                                 ` Dale
2011-09-10 22:35                                                                                 ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-11  9:37                                                                                   ` Peter Humphrey
2011-09-12  8:41                                                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-12  8:40                                                                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-12  8:37                                                                               ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-12  8:55                                                                                 ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-12  8:35                                                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-10 17:33                                                                         ` William Kenworthy
2011-09-10 18:12                                                                           ` William Kenworthy
2011-09-10 18:21                                                                             ` Dale
2011-09-12  7:12                                                                         ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12 12:14                                                                           ` Mike Edenfield
2011-09-12 12:28                                                                             ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12 14:47                                                                               ` Pandu Poluan
2011-09-12 15:29                                                                                 ` Michael Mol
2011-09-12 15:44                                                                                   ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12 16:56                                                                                 ` Dale
2011-09-10  7:16                                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-10  7:56                                                                   ` Dale
2011-09-12  7:17                                                                     ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12  7:49                                                                       ` Dale
2011-09-09 11:35                                                             ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-09 12:46                                                               ` Mick
2011-09-09 16:44                                                               ` pk
2011-09-09 17:04                                                                 ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-09 17:09                                                                   ` Michael Mol
2011-09-10  1:10                                                                   ` Dale
2011-09-10  1:01                                                                 ` Dale
2011-09-10 10:56                                                                   ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-10 15:52                                                                     ` Dale
2011-09-10 22:02                                                               ` Keith Dart
2011-09-10 22:51                                                                 ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-10 23:40                                                                   ` Keith Dart
2011-09-11 11:59                                                                     ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-09 17:24                                                             ` pk
2011-09-09 17:53                                                               ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-10  1:15                                                                 ` Dale
2011-09-10  1:23                                                                   ` Michael Mol
2011-09-10  1:49                                                                     ` Dale
2011-09-10  7:17                                                                       ` pk
2011-09-10  7:36                                                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-10 10:24                                                                       ` Mick
2011-09-10 16:09                                                                         ` Dale
2011-09-10 16:19                                                                           ` Michael Mol
2011-09-10 16:36                                                                             ` Pandu Poluan
2011-09-10 16:50                                                                               ` Michael Mol
2011-09-10 16:47                                                                             ` Dale
2011-09-10 21:28                                                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-11  8:22                                                                               ` Mike Edenfield
2011-09-11  8:54                                                                                 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-09-11  9:51                                                                           ` pk [this message]
2011-09-10 10:43                                                                   ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-11  3:16                                                               ` Paul Colquhoun
2011-09-11  7:29                                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-11 12:26                                                                 ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-11 18:56                                                                 ` Dale
2011-09-11 19:37                                                                   ` Mick
2011-09-11 21:07                                                                     ` Dale
2011-09-11 21:46                                                                       ` David W Noon
2011-09-11 22:08                                                                         ` Dale
2011-09-12  1:44                                                                         ` James Wall
2011-09-12  8:12                                                                           ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12 19:07                                                                           ` David W Noon
2011-09-12  7:45                                                               ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12  8:32                                                                 ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-12  8:49                                                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-12  9:07                                                                   ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12  9:13                                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-12  9:34                                                                       ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12 10:57                                                                         ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-14  5:01                                                         ` Walter Dnes
2011-09-08 19:48                                         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 20:21                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 20:38                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 20:46                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 21:25                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 16:44                                     ` David W Noon
2011-09-08 16:56                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 18:05                                         ` David W Noon
2011-09-08 19:13                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 20:25                                             ` David W Noon
2011-09-08 20:42                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 22:33                                                 ` Mick
2011-09-08 22:39                                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 23:00                                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 23:26                                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-09  6:22                                                         ` Mick
2011-09-09  7:35                                                           ` Dale
2011-09-08 22:51                                                 ` David W Noon
2011-09-08 20:45                                               ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 23:32                                                 ` David W Noon
2011-09-09 11:41                                   ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-09 12:44                                     ` Dale
2011-09-09 14:02                                       ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-10  1:20                                         ` Dale
2011-09-09 18:16                                     ` David W Noon
2011-09-09 19:57                                       ` Alex Schuster
2011-08-20 12:53                   ` Gregory Woodbury
2011-08-20 12:59                   ` David W Noon
2011-08-20 13:29                     ` Mick
2011-08-20 13:58                       ` Pandu Poluan
2011-08-20 15:32                         ` David W Noon
2011-08-20 14:22                       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-08-19 13:48       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-08-19 15:06         ` frares
2011-08-19 15:20           ` Alan McKinnon
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-08-18 19:17 frares
2011-08-18 19:26 ` frares
2011-08-18 19:42   ` Michael Mol
2011-08-18 23:29     ` Peter Humphrey

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