From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R2Qjh-0004tI-HL for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:48:57 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2318421C1FA; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71CA21C138 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:47:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk28 with SMTP id 28so2019111gxk.13 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 09:47:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ebfieTiINBVVo6Ac777Hopn5aKhk5T8QikI93NRk4tY=; b=hFl+IqrU+rmwPzDiIADjLEXA/Q5FS/nKRwlT4nQ9pbs8NKbHdolSQEI139id8JPe1N 21+Vmxj1vhi9Oa0prs3+I2d9nhdweYCvJ3C0aSZqwGUAFiAo2LgjiVAcU1P9nPiwjoSy F3MVmc3+frrcMZFGabkyHxfsqPOdcuXdVVBV0= Received: by 10.90.126.5 with SMTP id y5mr2818212agc.185.1315673242326; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 09:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-89-228.jan.bellsouth.net [65.0.89.228]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm8485294anp.13.2011.09.10.09.47.20 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 10 Sep 2011 09:47:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E6B9497.7040509@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 11:47:19 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110829 Firefox/6.0 SeaMonkey/2.3.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot References: <201108191109.34984.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <20110910093659.2f2fdf58@rohan> <201109101124.15694.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <4E6B8BB8.7040103@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 685db1c410aa4f523fd32bf9c9416587 Michael Mol wrote: > On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Dale wrote: >> Mick wrote: >> From my understanding, the dev is not listening. That is another thing that >> bothers me. When devs stop listening to users, that causes a problem. >> Remember hal? How many people complained early on about the config files? >> Lots. I also don't like that a very few people or just one person can make >> a decision like this that will have a negative affect on a LOT and I mean a >> LOT of users. That is something that needs to be dealt with. What I would >> like to see is this, a good stable alternative that works well with a proper >> fix and for that to push udev out and render it null. I think that would >> serve the dev right. Listen to the people that use it or people will use >> something else. The mdev package comes to mind here. Maybe this will push >> it to take udevs place. It seems there is enough people that opposes this. >> If a few commercial and paying people can help, it may just be the next >> better thing. > As I understand it, nothing of udev itself is in /usr, but instead > packages and scripts which plug themselves into udev to be triggered > by various events. > > Perhaps the real solution is to circumvent udev and get those other > packages and scripts to not put hotplug-active files under /usr. > > Either way, udev is what is the root of it. Udev is calling for something that is not there. Either udev needs to change or it needs to require the files to be somewhere other than /usr. Dale :-) :-)