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From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 11:47:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E6B9497.7040509@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+czFiBGysF8ZdZoSRkUJskKf-4WeB4DXZtQGBzAk10Q8qAfew@mail.gmail.com>

Michael Mol wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> Mick wrote:
>>  From my understanding, the dev is not listening.  That is another thing that
>> bothers me.  When devs stop listening to users, that causes a problem.
>>   Remember hal?  How many people complained early on about the config files?
>>   Lots.  I also don't like that a very few people or just one person can make
>> a decision like this that will have a negative affect on a LOT and I mean a
>> LOT of users.  That is something that needs to be dealt with.  What I would
>> like to see is this, a good stable alternative that works well with a proper
>> fix and for that to push udev out and render it null.  I think that would
>> serve the dev right.  Listen to the people that use it or people will use
>> something else.  The mdev package comes to mind here.  Maybe this will push
>> it to take udevs place.  It seems there is enough people that opposes this.
>>   If a few commercial and paying people can help, it may just be the next
>> better thing.
> As I understand it, nothing of udev itself is in /usr, but instead
> packages and scripts which plug themselves into udev to be triggered
> by various events.
>
> Perhaps the real solution is to circumvent udev and get those other
> packages and scripts to not put hotplug-active files under /usr.
>
>

Either way, udev is what is the root of it.  Udev is calling for 
something that is not there.  Either udev needs to change or it needs to 
require the files to be somewhere other than /usr.

Dale

:-)  :-)



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-09-10 16:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 231+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-18 18:59 [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot frares
2011-08-18 19:08 ` András Csányi
2011-08-19 12:42   ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2011-08-19 19:38     ` Francesco Talamona
2011-08-18 19:13 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Mol
2011-08-19  5:33   ` Graham Murray
2011-08-19  1:44 ` Matthew Finkel
2011-08-19  2:27 ` Mark Knecht
2011-08-19 10:09   ` Mick
2011-08-19 13:12     ` frares
2011-08-19 13:41       ` Gregory Woodbury
2011-08-19 22:08         ` Dale
2011-08-20  7:04           ` Mick
2011-08-20  7:17             ` Dale
2011-08-20  8:29               ` Alan McKinnon
2011-08-20  8:48                 ` Dale
2011-08-20  8:57                   ` Alan McKinnon
2011-08-20 12:55                     ` Mick
2011-09-06 23:06                     ` Dale
2011-09-07  5:09                       ` William Hubbs
2011-09-07  5:24                         ` Dale
2011-09-07 17:23                           ` Dan Johansson
2011-09-07 17:52                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-07 18:09                               ` Michael Mol
2011-09-07 18:28                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-07 19:07                                   ` Michael Mol
2011-09-07 19:10                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-07 19:19                                     ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-07 19:24                                       ` Michael Mol
2011-09-07 19:27                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-07 22:54                               ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-07 23:04                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-07 23:39                                   ` Michael Mol
2011-09-08  3:23                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 10:11                                       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 15:32                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 20:24                                           ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 20:37                                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 21:03                                               ` Dale
2011-09-08 22:55                                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-09  2:55                                                   ` Dale
2011-09-09 15:29                                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-09  9:10                                                   ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-08 17:30                                       ` pk
2011-09-08 18:40                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-09  5:04                                           ` pk
2011-09-07 23:55                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-08  3:30                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08  3:39                                       ` Dale
2011-09-08 14:51                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 15:15                                           ` Michael Mol
2011-09-08 15:40                                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 15:58                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-08 16:11                                               ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 16:45                                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 17:11                                                   ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 17:22                                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 20:05                                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 20:23                                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 20:43                                                         ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 20:48                                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 21:04                                                             ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 21:11                                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 22:36                                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 23:23                                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 23:34                                                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-09 11:35                                                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 21:29                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-08 21:44                                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 22:06                                                               ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-09  8:06                                                                 ` [gentoo-user] " Nicolas Sebrecht
2011-09-09 10:03                                                                   ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-12  8:40                                                                     ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2011-09-12  9:18                                                                       ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-12 16:50                                                                         ` Dale
2011-09-08 22:31                                                               ` [gentoo-user] " Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-08 23:05                                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 21:04                                                         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 20:40                                                       ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 20:56                                                         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 21:06                                                           ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 21:38                                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 22:28                                                               ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 23:01                                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 17:35                                           ` pk
2011-09-08 17:47                                             ` Michael Mol
2011-09-08 18:11                                               ` pk
2011-09-08 19:01                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 19:40                                                 ` Michael Mol
2011-09-09  9:39                                                 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-08 18:41                                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-09  5:18                                               ` pk
2011-09-08  7:59                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-08 15:08                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08  7:37                                     ` [gentoo-user] " Alberto Luaces
2011-09-08  8:17                                       ` Alberto Luaces
2011-09-08  1:37                                 ` [gentoo-user] " David W Noon
2011-09-08  2:49                                   ` Dale
2011-09-08  3:33                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08  8:09                                     ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 15:13                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 16:06                                         ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 16:34                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 17:01                                             ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-08 17:18                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 17:45                                                 ` Michael Mol
2011-09-08 19:00                                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 19:37                                                     ` Michael Mol
2011-09-08 20:03                                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 20:57                                                         ` Michael Mol
2011-09-09  8:11                                                         ` Paul Colquhoun
2011-09-09  8:53                                                           ` Dale
2011-09-09  9:15                                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-10  1:25                                                               ` Dale
2011-09-10  1:32                                                                 ` Michael Mol
2011-09-10  1:58                                                                   ` Dale
2011-09-10  7:30                                                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-10  7:54                                                                       ` Dale
2011-09-10 10:00                                                                         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-10 14:59                                                                           ` Dale
2011-09-10 15:52                                                                             ` Pandu Poluan
2011-09-10 16:34                                                                             ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-10 21:15                                                                               ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-10 21:28                                                                                 ` Dale
2011-09-10 22:35                                                                                 ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-11  9:37                                                                                   ` Peter Humphrey
2011-09-12  8:41                                                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-12  8:40                                                                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-12  8:37                                                                               ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-12  8:55                                                                                 ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-12  8:35                                                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-10 17:33                                                                         ` William Kenworthy
2011-09-10 18:12                                                                           ` William Kenworthy
2011-09-10 18:21                                                                             ` Dale
2011-09-12  7:12                                                                         ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12 12:14                                                                           ` Mike Edenfield
2011-09-12 12:28                                                                             ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12 14:47                                                                               ` Pandu Poluan
2011-09-12 15:29                                                                                 ` Michael Mol
2011-09-12 15:44                                                                                   ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12 16:56                                                                                 ` Dale
2011-09-10  7:16                                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-10  7:56                                                                   ` Dale
2011-09-12  7:17                                                                     ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12  7:49                                                                       ` Dale
2011-09-09 11:35                                                             ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-09 12:46                                                               ` Mick
2011-09-09 16:44                                                               ` pk
2011-09-09 17:04                                                                 ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-09 17:09                                                                   ` Michael Mol
2011-09-10  1:10                                                                   ` Dale
2011-09-10  1:01                                                                 ` Dale
2011-09-10 10:56                                                                   ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-10 15:52                                                                     ` Dale
2011-09-10 22:02                                                               ` Keith Dart
2011-09-10 22:51                                                                 ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-10 23:40                                                                   ` Keith Dart
2011-09-11 11:59                                                                     ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-09 17:24                                                             ` pk
2011-09-09 17:53                                                               ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-10  1:15                                                                 ` Dale
2011-09-10  1:23                                                                   ` Michael Mol
2011-09-10  1:49                                                                     ` Dale
2011-09-10  7:17                                                                       ` pk
2011-09-10  7:36                                                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-10 10:24                                                                       ` Mick
2011-09-10 16:09                                                                         ` Dale
2011-09-10 16:19                                                                           ` Michael Mol
2011-09-10 16:36                                                                             ` Pandu Poluan
2011-09-10 16:50                                                                               ` Michael Mol
2011-09-10 16:47                                                                             ` Dale [this message]
2011-09-10 21:28                                                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-11  8:22                                                                               ` Mike Edenfield
2011-09-11  8:54                                                                                 ` Pandu Poluan
2011-09-11  9:51                                                                           ` pk
2011-09-10 10:43                                                                   ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-11  3:16                                                               ` Paul Colquhoun
2011-09-11  7:29                                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-11 12:26                                                                 ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-11 18:56                                                                 ` Dale
2011-09-11 19:37                                                                   ` Mick
2011-09-11 21:07                                                                     ` Dale
2011-09-11 21:46                                                                       ` David W Noon
2011-09-11 22:08                                                                         ` Dale
2011-09-12  1:44                                                                         ` James Wall
2011-09-12  8:12                                                                           ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12 19:07                                                                           ` David W Noon
2011-09-12  7:45                                                               ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12  8:32                                                                 ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-12  8:49                                                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-12  9:07                                                                   ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12  9:13                                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-12  9:34                                                                       ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-12 10:57                                                                         ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-14  5:01                                                         ` Walter Dnes
2011-09-08 19:48                                         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 20:21                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 20:38                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 20:46                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 21:25                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 16:44                                     ` David W Noon
2011-09-08 16:56                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 18:05                                         ` David W Noon
2011-09-08 19:13                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 20:25                                             ` David W Noon
2011-09-08 20:42                                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 22:33                                                 ` Mick
2011-09-08 22:39                                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-08 23:00                                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 23:26                                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-09  6:22                                                         ` Mick
2011-09-09  7:35                                                           ` Dale
2011-09-08 22:51                                                 ` David W Noon
2011-09-08 20:45                                               ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-08 23:32                                                 ` David W Noon
2011-09-09 11:41                                   ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-09 12:44                                     ` Dale
2011-09-09 14:02                                       ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-10  1:20                                         ` Dale
2011-09-09 18:16                                     ` David W Noon
2011-09-09 19:57                                       ` Alex Schuster
2011-08-20 12:53                   ` Gregory Woodbury
2011-08-20 12:59                   ` David W Noon
2011-08-20 13:29                     ` Mick
2011-08-20 13:58                       ` Pandu Poluan
2011-08-20 15:32                         ` David W Noon
2011-08-20 14:22                       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-08-19 13:48       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-08-19 15:06         ` frares
2011-08-19 15:20           ` Alan McKinnon
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-08-18 19:17 frares
2011-08-18 19:26 ` frares
2011-08-18 19:42   ` Michael Mol
2011-08-18 23:29     ` Peter Humphrey

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