From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R24Dk-0001WL-G2 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2011 16:46:28 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 03AF421C130; Fri, 9 Sep 2011 16:46:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.alltele.net (m1.alltele.net [85.30.0.4]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36DA421C0DC for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2011 16:44:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([87.227.57.71]) by smtp.alltele.net (IceWarp 10.3.2) with ESMTP id SZB81425 for ; Fri, 09 Sep 2011 18:44:25 +0200 Message-ID: <4E6A426A.7060205@coolmail.se> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 18:44:26 +0200 From: pk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.20) Gecko/20110901 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.12 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot References: <201108191109.34984.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <11342928.W3O2ONNTLv@tux> <4E69D406.9000909@gmail.com> <20110909133547.2cc7747c@weird.wonkology.org> In-Reply-To: <20110909133547.2cc7747c@weird.wonkology.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.77 required=7.00 tests=LOCALPART_IN_SUBJECT=1.56,RATWARE_RCVD_BONUS_SPC=1.00,MR_NOT_ATTRIBUTED_IP=0.20,NO_RDNS2=0.01,MR_DIFF_MID=1.00 version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (1.1) on smtp.alltele.net X-CTCH: RefID="str=0001.0A0B0207.4E6A426B.001B,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0"; Spam="Unknown"; VOD="Unknown" X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: ee5dc334c0f6c9981f3ad1da32482878 On 2011-09-09 13:35, Alex Schuster wrote: > When I switched to using an initramfs, it was not very complicated. I > simply use genkernel. With CLEAN="no" and MRPROPER="no", it uses my > /usr/src/linux/.config and does not change the kernel options. Then comes genkernel --install --lvm -luks all, and I have kernel and initramfs And for those that like to do without genkernel? Again, adding another layer for things to go wrong. > I don't get this one. Why do you want to copy an existing /usr partition > to another one? He said he wishes to move his /usr to a spare partition (the part about KDE4)... I assume his /usr currently resides on / (or maybe a smaller partition that he cannot easily expand). > Yes, I also feel sorry for guys like Alan. But for us desktop users > I think's it's not such a big deal. I'm a desktop and a (personal server) user and I think it's quite a big deal. I want simplicity; adding layers increases complexity. I think it's the same for Dale and most other people objecting to this. To me it's a very big deal (this is a deal breaker, or close to it). I've been using Linux continously since around 1998 (well, I did my first install on my amiga 4000 in 1995 using 9 floppy disks, don't remember the distro) and I've been using (not much administration though) Solaris, AIX and HP-UX since around that time as well (at school & at work). It seems some developers are hell bent on inventing Windows all over again (this goes not only for udev but also for Gnome and their supporting libraries)... Best regards Peter K