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Am 08/18/11 11:08, schrieb Neil Bothwick:
> On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:41:57 +0200, Norman Rie=DF wrote:
>=20
>>>> Concerning the "Atom not fast enough for compiling"-Problem. I
>>>> compiled, run and update a Gentoo System on a AMD Geode LX, which is
>>>> way less powerfull and it works just fine. =20
>>>
>>> That's just plain masochism. I have one of those and even installing
>>> from binary packages is painfully slow.
>>>
>>> I have three Atom machines here, a small server, a netbook and a
>>> nettop used as a MythTV frontend, and the only compiling any of them
>>> do is for their kernels.
>=20
>> I am not sitting in front of it watching stuff scroll by and its
>> funktion (Wifi-Accesspoint) is not affected by compiling...
>> Sure it takes a little longer, but why should i care.
>=20
> Most of the time, there's no need. There are times when a package is
> updated and needs a config update immediately after or you could end up
> with the new program being called with the old config. Binary installs
> mean you have a better idea of when that will need to be done.
>=20
> It's not a big issue, but I already have the binary build setup so addi=
ng
> one more host was a simple matter of creating a directory for the chroo=
t
> and adding the host name to an existing script.
>=20
> How long did the initial install take on the Geode? I installed to the
> chroot on the build host in the first place then rsynced everything
> across.
>=20
>=20

Yes, and when i return to that shell some time later i scroll through
the package messages and do what needs to be done, followed by a
etc-update, revdep-rebuild, depclean and sometimes lafilefixer.
I am not saying, i update like fire and forget :-).

Everyone should use a setting that one sees fit. That's why we use
Gentoo, right? Because we have that choice.
If you have a well working setup in place, then it is only right to use i=
t.

Can't remember how long it take exactly, but here is the ouput of a
whole system rebuild with a kind of funny estimate :-).
Shows you all the packages, too.
Just wondering myself right now, why there are N and U packages, when
emerge -uDN world shows nothing to do...

emerge -pe system world | genlop -p
These are the pretended packages: (this may take a while; wait...)

[ebuild   R    ] sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5-r2
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/libintl-0
[ebuild   R    ] app-arch/xz-utils-5.0.1
[ebuild   R    ] sys-devel/gnuconfig-20110202
[ebuild   R    ] dev-libs/expat-2.0.1-r3
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/libiconv-0
[ebuild   R    ] app-misc/pax-utils-0.2.2
[ebuild   R    ] app-arch/bzip2-1.0.6
[ebuild   R    ] app-misc/mime-types-8
[ebuild   R    ] sys-devel/gcc-config-1.4.1-r1
[ebuild   R    ] app-arch/cpio-2.11
[ebuild   R    ] sys-libs/timezone-data-2011e
[ebuild   R    ] sys-fs/sysfsutils-2.1.0
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/tcp-wrappers-7.6-r8
[ebuild   R    ] dev-libs/libffi-3.0.9-r2
[ebuild   R    ] sys-devel/patch-2.5.9
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/which-2.20
[ebuild   R    ] sys-devel/autoconf-wrapper-10-r1
[ebuild   R    ] sys-devel/automake-wrapper-4
[ebuild   R    ] sys-process/cronbase-0.3.2-r1
[ebuild   R    ] mail-client/mailx-support-20060102-r1
[ebuild   R    ] dev-libs/libnl-1.1-r2
[ebuild   R    ] app-portage/portage-utils-0.3.1
[ebuild   R    ] net-misc/rdate-1.4-r3
[ebuild   R    ] sys-kernel/module-rebuild-0.5
[ebuild   R    ] sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.36.1
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/libffi-0
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/sandbox-2.4
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/net-tools-1.60_p20110409135728
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/module-init-tools-3.16-r1
[ebuild   R    ] sys-devel/m4-1.4.15
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/pciutils-3.1.7
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/os-headers-0
[ebuild   R    ] dev-libs/gmp-4.3.2
[ebuild   R    ] dev-libs/mpfr-3.0.0_p3
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/sysvinit-2.88-r1
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/init-0
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/baselayout-2.0.3
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/debianutils-3.4.4
[ebuild   R    ] sys-devel/libperl-5.10.1
[ebuild  N     ] virtual/pam-0
[ebuild   R    ] net-mail/mailbase-1
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/man-0
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/man-pages-posix-2003a
[ebuild   R    ] app-i18n/man-pages-de-0.5-r1
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/man-pages-3.28
[ebuild   R    ] sys-auth/pambase-20101024
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/acl-0
[ebuild   R    ] app-admin/python-updater-0.9
[ebuild   R    ] sys-devel/binutils-config-2-r1
[ebuild   R    ] app-admin/eselect-vi-1.1.7-r1
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/mta-0
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/perl-MIME-Base64-3.08
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/perl-ExtUtils-CBuilder-0.27.03
[ebuild   R    ] app-admin/eselect-ctags-1.13
[ebuild   R    ] dev-util/ctags-5.7
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/perl-IO-Compress-2.024
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/perl-Digest-MD5-2.39
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/perl-libnet-1.220.0-r1
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/perl-Module-Build-0.36.07
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/perl-Test-Harness-3.17
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/perl-Archive-Tar-1.54
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/perl-ExtUtils-ParseXS-2.22.05
[ebuild   R    ] sys-devel/gettext-0.18.1.1-r1
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/sed-4.2.1
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/findutils-4.4.2
[ebuild   R    ] dev-libs/popt-1.16-r1
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/gawk-3.1.8
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/diffutils-3.0
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/kbd-1.15
[ebuild   R    ] app-arch/tar-1.23-r2
[ebuild   R    ] sys-devel/make-3.82
[ebuild   R    ] app-arch/gzip-1.4
[ebuild   R    ] sys-devel/flex-2.5.35
[ebuild   R    ] sys-devel/bison-2.4.3
[ebuild   R    ] app-misc/realpath-1.15-r1
[ebuild   R    ] net-misc/rsync-3.0.8
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/yacc-0
[ebuild   R    ] net-wireless/wireless-tools-29
[ebuild   R    ] sys-process/vixie-cron-4.1-r10
[ebuild   R    ] sys-devel/binutils-2.20.1-r1
[ebuild   R    ] sys-libs/ncurses-5.7-r7
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/texinfo-4.13
[ebuild   R    ] app-shells/bash-4.1_p9
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/util-linux-2.19.1
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/less-441
[ebuild   R    ] app-editors/nano-2.2.5
[ebuild   R    ] sys-process/procps-3.2.8-r2
[ebuild   R    ] sys-libs/gpm-1.20.6
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/editor-0
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/pager-0
[ebuild   R    ] dev-util/lafilefixer-0.5
[ebuild   R    ] app-admin/perl-cleaner-2.7
[ebuild   R    ] app-admin/eselect-python-20100321
[ebuild   R    ] sys-libs/cracklib-2.8.16
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/file-5.07-r3
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/shadow-4.1.4.3
[ebuild   R    ] dev-libs/openssl-1.0.0d
[ebuild   R    ] net-misc/wget-1.12-r3
[ebuild   R    ] net-misc/iputils-20100418-r1
[ebuild   R    ] net-wireless/hostapd-0.7.3
[ebuild   R    ] sys-libs/glibc-2.12.2
[ebuild   R    ] sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/openrc-0.8.3-r1
[ebuild   R    ] sys-fs/udev-164-r2
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/libc-0
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/dev-manager-0
[ebuild   R    ] dev-lang/python-3.1.3-r1
[ebuild   R    ] dev-python/setuptools-0.6.15
[ebuild   R    ] dev-python/argparse-1.2.1
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.10.3
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/package-manager-0
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/coreutils-8.7
[ebuild   R    ] app-admin/eselect-1.2.15
[ebuild   R    ] app-misc/ca-certificates-20090709
[ebuild   R    ] sys-libs/db-4.8.30
[ebuild   R    ] sys-libs/gdbm-1.8.3-r4
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/iproute2-2.6.35-r2
[ebuild   R    ] dev-lang/perl-5.12.3-r1
[ebuild   R    ] sys-devel/autoconf-2.68
[ebuild   R    ] dev-perl/HTML-Tagset-3.20
[ebuild   R    ] dev-perl/Locale-gettext-1.05-r1
[ebuild   R    ] dev-perl/DateManip-5.56
[ebuild   R    ] dev-perl/URI-1.55
[ebuild   R    ] dev-perl/YAML-Tiny-1.41
[ebuild   R    ] perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-2.22.05
[ebuild   R    ] perl-core/ExtUtils-CBuilder-0.27.03
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/attr-2.4.44
[ebuild   R    ] dev-perl/HTML-Parser-3.67
[ebuild     U  ] sys-apps/help2man-1.38.2 [1.36.4-r1]
[ebuild   R    ] perl-core/Module-Build-0.36.07
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/acl-2.2.49
[ebuild   R    ] sys-devel/automake-1.11.1
[ebuild   R    ] dev-perl/HTML-Tree-3.23
[ebuild   R    ] sys-devel/libtool-2.4-r1
[ebuild   R    ] net-firewall/iptables-1.4.11.1-r2
[ebuild   R    ] sys-libs/readline-6.1_p2
[ebuild   R    ] sys-libs/pam-1.1.3
[ebuild   R    ] net-misc/curl-7.21.4
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/groff-1.21
[ebuild   R    ] sys-process/psmisc-22.12
[ebuild   R    ] net-libs/liblockfile-1.08
[ebuild   R    ] net-libs/libpcap-1.1.1
[ebuild   R    ] mail-mta/ssmtp-2.64-r2
[ebuild   R    ] net-misc/bridge-utils-1.4
[ebuild   R    ] sys-boot/grub-0.97-r10
[ebuild   R    ] app-misc/screen-4.0.3-r4
[ebuild   R    ] dev-libs/libxml2-2.7.8-r1
[ebuild   R    ] dev-vcs/git-1.7.3.4-r1
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/man-1.6f-r4
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/busybox-1.17.4
[ebuild   R    ] net-analyzer/iftop-0.17
[ebuild   R    ] mail-client/mailx-8.1.2.20050715-r3
[ebuild   R    ] app-editors/vim-core-7.3.189
[ebuild   R    ] app-editors/vim-7.3.189
[ebuild   R    ] app-vim/gentoo-syntax-20101212
[ebuild   R    ] dev-util/gtk-doc-am-1.17
[ebuild   R    ] dev-perl/Crypt-SSLeay-0.57
[ebuild   R    ] dev-perl/libwww-perl-5.836
[ebuild   R    ] app-portage/genlop-0.30.8-r2
[ebuild   R    ] dev-libs/libpcre-8.12
[ebuild   R    ] sys-apps/grep-2.5.4-r1
[ebuild   R    ] app-admin/metalog-1
[ebuild   R    ] app-portage/gentoolkit-0.3.0.4
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/ssh-0
[ebuild   R    ] sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.14
[ebuild   R    ] dev-util/pkgconfig-0.26
[ebuild   R    ] net-misc/openssh-5.8_p1-r1
[ebuild   R    ] sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.41.14
[ebuild   R    ] dev-lang/python-2.7.1-r1
[ebuild   R    ] dev-libs/glib-2.28.8  USE=3D"introspection*"
[ebuild   R    ] dev-libs/gobject-introspection-0.10.8


Estimated update time: 1 day, 1 hour, 11 minutes.

Norman