* [gentoo-user] GRUB v2
@ 2011-08-15 9:52 Peter Humphrey
2011-08-15 10:07 ` J. Roeleveld
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From: Peter Humphrey @ 2011-08-15 9:52 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Hello List,
I'm sure I saw a thread recently describing progress in understanding and
using grub-2, but now I can't find it. I have six months of articles here
too, and I've searched gmane and the gentoo archive. Perhaps I'm being
dense, or maybe it was on another list.
I want to try another distro on an oldish box, but its gentoo grub can't
chain to the grub-2 on another boot partition - it reports an invalid
executable format, or something like that.
Looks like time to bone up on grub-2 as it's the Coming Thing.
--
Rgds
Peter Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23
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* Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2
2011-08-15 9:52 [gentoo-user] GRUB v2 Peter Humphrey
@ 2011-08-15 10:07 ` J. Roeleveld
2011-08-15 13:06 ` Peter Humphrey
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From: J. Roeleveld @ 2011-08-15 10:07 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Mon, August 15, 2011 11:52 am, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Hello List,
>
> I'm sure I saw a thread recently describing progress in understanding and
> using grub-2, but now I can't find it. I have six months of articles here
> too, and I've searched gmane and the gentoo archive. Perhaps I'm being
> dense, or maybe it was on another list.
>
> I want to try another distro on an oldish box, but its gentoo grub can't
> chain to the grub-2 on another boot partition - it reports an invalid
> executable format, or something like that.
>
> Looks like time to bone up on grub-2 as it's the Coming Thing.
6 months might not be enough, there was a thread called "[gentoo-user] A
tiny titillating taste of grub2" and dates back to 9 January 2011.
There also was a thread called "[gentoo-user] [cookbook] grub2 for idiots
like me" by walt (24 January 2011) which is, I believe, what you're
looking for.
--
Joost
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* Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2
2011-08-15 10:07 ` J. Roeleveld
@ 2011-08-15 13:06 ` Peter Humphrey
2011-08-15 13:15 ` J. Roeleveld
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From: Peter Humphrey @ 2011-08-15 13:06 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Monday 15 August 2011 11:07:31 J. Roeleveld wrote:
> There also was a thread called "[gentoo-user] [cookbook] grub2 for idiots
> like me" by walt (24 January 2011) which is, I believe, what you're
> looking for.
That looks like the one. Thanks Joost.
--
Rgds
Peter Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23
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* Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2
2011-08-15 13:06 ` Peter Humphrey
@ 2011-08-15 13:15 ` J. Roeleveld
2011-08-15 18:38 ` Dale
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From: J. Roeleveld @ 2011-08-15 13:15 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Mon, August 15, 2011 3:06 pm, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Monday 15 August 2011 11:07:31 J. Roeleveld wrote:
>
>> There also was a thread called "[gentoo-user] [cookbook] grub2 for
>> idiots
>> like me" by walt (24 January 2011) which is, I believe, what you're
>> looking for.
>
> That looks like the one. Thanks Joost.
You're welcome, my Gentoo-user archive goes back to 2004 :)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2
2011-08-15 13:15 ` J. Roeleveld
@ 2011-08-15 18:38 ` Dale
2011-08-15 20:23 ` Peter Humphrey
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From: Dale @ 2011-08-15 18:38 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Mon, August 15, 2011 3:06 pm, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>
>> On Monday 15 August 2011 11:07:31 J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>
>>
>>> There also was a thread called "[gentoo-user] [cookbook] grub2 for
>>> idiots
>>> like me" by walt (24 January 2011) which is, I believe, what you're
>>> looking for.
>>>
>> That looks like the one. Thanks Joost.
>>
> You're welcome, my Gentoo-user archive goes back to 2004 :)
>
>
Mine goes back a year. Gentoo moves so fast, I figure a year should be
more than plenty. Maybe I need to rethink that a little. I could be
wrong. :/
Dale
:-) :-)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2
2011-08-15 18:38 ` Dale
@ 2011-08-15 20:23 ` Peter Humphrey
2011-08-16 6:57 ` Joost Roeleveld
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From: Peter Humphrey @ 2011-08-15 20:23 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Monday 15 August 2011 19:38:49 Dale wrote:
> J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > You're welcome, my Gentoo-user archive goes back to 2004 :)
>
> Mine goes back a year. Gentoo moves so fast, I figure a year should be
> more than plenty. Maybe I need to rethink that a little. I could be
> wrong. :/
I've just raised the expiry period on my GentooUser folder to 365 days so as
not to be caught out this way again.
--
Rgds
Peter Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23
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* Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2
2011-08-15 20:23 ` Peter Humphrey
@ 2011-08-16 6:57 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-08-16 7:28 ` Dale
` (2 more replies)
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From: Joost Roeleveld @ 2011-08-16 6:57 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Monday, August 15, 2011 09:23:44 PM Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Monday 15 August 2011 19:38:49 Dale wrote:
> > J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > > You're welcome, my Gentoo-user archive goes back to 2004 :)
> >
> > Mine goes back a year. Gentoo moves so fast, I figure a year should be
> > more than plenty. Maybe I need to rethink that a little. I could be
> > wrong. :/
>
> I've just raised the expiry period on my GentooUser folder to 365 days so as
> not to be caught out this way again.
Where do you set that?
--
Joost
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* Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2
2011-08-16 6:57 ` Joost Roeleveld
@ 2011-08-16 7:28 ` Dale
2011-08-16 8:19 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-08-16 17:05 ` Peter Humphrey
2011-08-16 19:09 ` kashani
2 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2011-08-16 7:28 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> On Monday, August 15, 2011 09:23:44 PM Peter Humphrey wrote:
>
>> On Monday 15 August 2011 19:38:49 Dale wrote:
>>
>>> J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>>
>>>> You're welcome, my Gentoo-user archive goes back to 2004 :)
>>>>
>>> Mine goes back a year. Gentoo moves so fast, I figure a year should be
>>> more than plenty. Maybe I need to rethink that a little. I could be
>>> wrong. :/
>>>
>> I've just raised the expiry period on my GentooUser folder to 365 days so as
>> not to be caught out this way again.
>>
> Where do you set that?
>
> --
> Joost
>
>
Depends on what email program you use. I use Seamonkey for mine but a
friend showed me mutt the other day. I need to ask him if I can be
nosey and look at it closer to see how it works. I was several feet
away at the time. It was threaded tho. I love my threading feature. ;-)
If you use Seamonkey, right click on the folder that the emails go to.
Select properties and then the retention tab in the pop up. Just click
on the correct stuff and set it to how many days you want it kept. Some
other programs may have something similar tho.
Dale
:-) :-)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2
2011-08-16 7:28 ` Dale
@ 2011-08-16 8:19 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-08-16 9:01 ` Dale
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From: Joost Roeleveld @ 2011-08-16 8:19 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Tuesday, August 16, 2011 02:28:53 AM Dale wrote:
> Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> > On Monday, August 15, 2011 09:23:44 PM Peter Humphrey wrote:
> >> On Monday 15 August 2011 19:38:49 Dale wrote:
> >>> J. Roeleveld wrote:
> >>>> You're welcome, my Gentoo-user archive goes back to 2004 :)
> >>>
> >>> Mine goes back a year. Gentoo moves so fast, I figure a year should
> >>> be
> >>> more than plenty. Maybe I need to rethink that a little. I could
> >>> be
> >>> wrong. :/
> >>
> >> I've just raised the expiry period on my GentooUser folder to 365 days
> >> so as not to be caught out this way again.
> >
> > Where do you set that?
> >
> > --
> > Joost
>
> Depends on what email program you use. I use Seamonkey for mine but a
> friend showed me mutt the other day. I need to ask him if I can be
> nosey and look at it closer to see how it works. I was several feet
> away at the time. It was threaded tho. I love my threading feature. ;-)
>
> If you use Seamonkey, right click on the folder that the emails go to.
> Select properties and then the retention tab in the pop up. Just click
> on the correct stuff and set it to how many days you want it kept. Some
> other programs may have something similar tho.
I use KMail to an IMAP server and as I am a digital pack-rat, I hardly ever
delete anything. :)
Only time I will delete any email or documents is when it's either duplicated
or covered by a confidentiality agreement. :)
--
Joost
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* Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2
2011-08-16 8:19 ` Joost Roeleveld
@ 2011-08-16 9:01 ` Dale
2011-08-16 9:16 ` Joost Roeleveld
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From: Dale @ 2011-08-16 9:01 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 16, 2011 02:28:53 AM Dale wrote:
>
>> Joost Roeleveld wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, August 15, 2011 09:23:44 PM Peter Humphrey wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Monday 15 August 2011 19:38:49 Dale wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You're welcome, my Gentoo-user archive goes back to 2004 :)
>>>>>>
>>>>> Mine goes back a year. Gentoo moves so fast, I figure a year should
>>>>> be
>>>>> more than plenty. Maybe I need to rethink that a little. I could
>>>>> be
>>>>> wrong. :/
>>>>>
>>>> I've just raised the expiry period on my GentooUser folder to 365 days
>>>> so as not to be caught out this way again.
>>>>
>>> Where do you set that?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Joost
>>>
>> Depends on what email program you use. I use Seamonkey for mine but a
>> friend showed me mutt the other day. I need to ask him if I can be
>> nosey and look at it closer to see how it works. I was several feet
>> away at the time. It was threaded tho. I love my threading feature. ;-)
>>
>> If you use Seamonkey, right click on the folder that the emails go to.
>> Select properties and then the retention tab in the pop up. Just click
>> on the correct stuff and set it to how many days you want it kept. Some
>> other programs may have something similar tho.
>>
> I use KMail to an IMAP server and as I am a digital pack-rat, I hardly ever
> delete anything. :)
> Only time I will delete any email or documents is when it's either duplicated
> or covered by a confidentiality agreement. :)
>
> --
> Joost
>
>
I used to use Kmail. There is a way to set it to delete things but I
thought it was set to retain everything until set to delete. Basically,
the default is to keep it all until told otherwise. Maybe IMAP is
handled differently tho since it is set up on the server end.
Dale
:-) :-)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2
2011-08-16 9:01 ` Dale
@ 2011-08-16 9:16 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-08-16 10:08 ` Dale
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From: Joost Roeleveld @ 2011-08-16 9:16 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Tuesday, August 16, 2011 04:01:03 AM Dale wrote:
> Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> > I use KMail to an IMAP server and as I am a digital pack-rat, I hardly
> > ever delete anything. :)
> > Only time I will delete any email or documents is when it's either
> > duplicated or covered by a confidentiality agreement. :)
> >
> > --
> > Joost
>
> I used to use Kmail. There is a way to set it to delete things but I
> thought it was set to retain everything until set to delete. Basically,
> the default is to keep it all until told otherwise. Maybe IMAP is
> handled differently tho since it is set up on the server end.
Probably, I don't like "auto-deletion" tools. They always tend to delete what
I want to keep.
--
Joost
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* Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2
2011-08-16 9:16 ` Joost Roeleveld
@ 2011-08-16 10:08 ` Dale
0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2011-08-16 10:08 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 16, 2011 04:01:03 AM Dale wrote:
>
>> Joost Roeleveld wrote:
>>
>>> I use KMail to an IMAP server and as I am a digital pack-rat, I hardly
>>> ever delete anything. :)
>>> Only time I will delete any email or documents is when it's either
>>> duplicated or covered by a confidentiality agreement. :)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Joost
>>>
>> I used to use Kmail. There is a way to set it to delete things but I
>> thought it was set to retain everything until set to delete. Basically,
>> the default is to keep it all until told otherwise. Maybe IMAP is
>> handled differently tho since it is set up on the server end.
>>
> Probably, I don't like "auto-deletion" tools. They always tend to delete what
> I want to keep.
>
> --
> Joost
>
>
I thought that was me doing that. O_O
Dale
:-) :-)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2
2011-08-16 6:57 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-08-16 7:28 ` Dale
@ 2011-08-16 17:05 ` Peter Humphrey
2011-08-17 6:21 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-08-16 19:09 ` kashani
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From: Peter Humphrey @ 2011-08-16 17:05 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Tuesday 16 August 2011 07:57:37 Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> On Monday, August 15, 2011 09:23:44 PM Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Monday 15 August 2011 19:38:49 Dale wrote:
> > > J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > > > You're welcome, my Gentoo-user archive goes back to 2004 :)
> > >
> > > Mine goes back a year. Gentoo moves so fast, I figure a year should
> > > be more than plenty. Maybe I need to rethink that a little. I
> > > could be wrong. :/
> >
> > I've just raised the expiry period on my GentooUser folder to 365 days
> > so as not to be caught out this way again.
>
> Where do you set that?
In kmail, right-click on the folder and choose Expire. Set the number of
days to keep. Nothing fancier than that, in case you were hoping for
something clever. :-(
--
Rgds
Peter Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23
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* Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2
2011-08-16 6:57 ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-08-16 7:28 ` Dale
2011-08-16 17:05 ` Peter Humphrey
@ 2011-08-16 19:09 ` kashani
2 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: kashani @ 2011-08-16 19:09 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 8/15/2011 11:57 PM, Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> On Monday, August 15, 2011 09:23:44 PM Peter Humphrey wrote:
>> On Monday 15 August 2011 19:38:49 Dale wrote:
>>> J. Roeleveld wrote:
>>>> You're welcome, my Gentoo-user archive goes back to 2004 :)
>>>
>>> Mine goes back a year. Gentoo moves so fast, I figure a year should be
>>> more than plenty. Maybe I need to rethink that a little. I could be
>>> wrong. :/
>>
>> I've just raised the expiry period on my GentooUser folder to 365 days so as
>> not to be caught out this way again.
>
> Where do you set that?
>
> --
> Joost
>
Thunderbird will let you set a number of days to keep per folder. I deal
with all my lists that way. 180 days for gentoo and down to 30 days for
Mythtv. All the archives are searchable so no point in duplicating the
data locally.
kashani
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* Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2
2011-08-16 17:05 ` Peter Humphrey
@ 2011-08-17 6:21 ` Joost Roeleveld
0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Joost Roeleveld @ 2011-08-17 6:21 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Tuesday, August 16, 2011 06:05:23 PM Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Tuesday 16 August 2011 07:57:37 Joost Roeleveld wrote:
> > On Monday, August 15, 2011 09:23:44 PM Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > On Monday 15 August 2011 19:38:49 Dale wrote:
> > > > J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > > > > You're welcome, my Gentoo-user archive goes back to 2004 :)
> > > >
> > > > Mine goes back a year. Gentoo moves so fast, I figure a year
> > > > should
> > > > be more than plenty. Maybe I need to rethink that a little. I
> > > > could be wrong. :/
> > >
> > > I've just raised the expiry period on my GentooUser folder to 365
> > > days
> > > so as not to be caught out this way again.
> >
> > Where do you set that?
>
> In kmail, right-click on the folder and choose Expire. Set the number of
> days to keep. Nothing fancier than that, in case you were hoping for
> something clever. :-(
Thanks, I wanted to know where it's configured to ensure it's switched off :)
Fortunately, it defaults to off.
--
Joost
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