[gentoo-user] Update of live ebuilds

[gentoo-user] Update of live ebuilds

[Natanael Olaiz]

Hi all,

Someone knows a way to check for live ebuilds updates availability?

When upgrading my system, if I just do an 'emerge -u' that doesn't
include possible updates in live ebuilds. Then I need to force a
reinstallation of live ebuilds, that probably have no updates, resulting
a waste of time, or either do the repositories updates by hand (for
instance 'svn up') in the src dir, to decide if I need to reinstall the
ebuild..

I'd just found this thread about it: 
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-518701-postdays-0-postorder-asc-start-0.html

But I was wondering: there is no other way/tool included in gentoo to do
this?


Thanks in advance.

Best regards,
Natanael.

Re: [gentoo-user] Update of live ebuilds

[Alan McKinnon]

On Sun 07 August 2011 14:46:41 Natanael Olaiz did opine thusly:
> Hi all,
> 
> Someone knows a way to check for live ebuilds updates availability?
> 
> When upgrading my system, if I just do an 'emerge -u' that doesn't
> include possible updates in live ebuilds. Then I need to force a
> reinstallation of live ebuilds, that probably have no updates,
> resulting a waste of time, or either do the repositories updates by
> hand (for instance 'svn up') in the src dir, to decide if I need to
> reinstall the ebuild..
> 
> I'd just found this thread about it:
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-518701-postdays-0-postorder-asc
> -start-0.html
> 
> But I was wondering: there is no other way/tool included in gentoo
> to do this?

There is no tool to do this that I know of.

Regular ebuilds ( not -9999 versions) use release versions that do not 
change, so working out the deps and changes is easy.

Live ebuilds by definition do not have versions, they only have 
"whatever is in the tree right now". Commit numbers do not really 
qualify as version numbers.

If you were a developer working on those projects you are using live 
ebuilds for, you would know what has been updated recently and use 
your brain smarts to figure out what to rebuild. or (as most do) you 
would just rebuild the whole lot almost every day anyway.

By using live ebuilds you implicitly have given up the ability to have 
version number tracking and have agreed to do it all yourself. It's 
something you are just going to have to deal with, or downgrade back 
to released versions.


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Update of live ebuilds

[Daniel Pielmeier]

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Natanael Olaiz schrieb am 07.08.2011 14:46:
> Hi all,
> 
> Someone knows a way to check for live ebuilds updates availability?
> 
> When upgrading my system, if I just do an 'emerge -u' that doesn't
> include possible updates in live ebuilds. Then I need to force a
> reinstallation of live ebuilds, that probably have no updates, resulting
> a waste of time, or either do the repositories updates by hand (for
> instance 'svn up') in the src dir, to decide if I need to reinstall the
> ebuild..
> 
> I'd just found this thread about it: 
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-518701-postdays-0-postorder-asc-start-0.html
> 
> But I was wondering: there is no other way/tool included in gentoo to do
> this?

Maybe this one?!?

https://github.com/mgorny/smart-live-rebuild/

-- 
Regards
Daniel


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[gentoo-user] Re: Update of live ebuilds

[James]

Natanael Olaiz <nolaiz <at> gmail.com> writes:


> Someone knows a way to check for live ebuilds updates availability?

A recursive directory listing, which included file
access times, that is diff'd against a previously recorded 
recursive directory listing, might do the trick....?


hth,
James