From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QgO1J-0005Pg-19 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:28:01 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A3ED821C1A0 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:28:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f53.google.com (mail-yw0-f53.google.com [209.85.213.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D41221C165 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 21:20:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywm21 with SMTP id 21so2337590ywm.40 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:20:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sAWN0Mrx+orDeg2tu5yu2WV1W+3DPihLr8rZyPKTevU=; b=vUMAr3TdqbMmvul3SZgWHPg1ZcO65uCFraQfv/ZxfL80nCGT3uuYpo9w0vVtopkMRZ 3z+43jkYjD6rhW/OgLGJu1tca8jSwqiIH0P5j+8wcXmO0Teebxid2Am3uFZCUDwTxpNW YQ8kzC0LHWPhTlNzIJHuchC8tGc593xqNd0C0= Received: by 10.236.154.161 with SMTP id h21mr6429591yhk.396.1310419247450; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-74-240-57-83.jan.bellsouth.net [74.240.57.83]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f4sm6433830yhn.27.2011.07.11.14.20.45 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E1B692C.2030207@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:20:44 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110708 Gentoo/2.0.14-r1 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics. References: <4E11EEF3.70804@gmail.com> <4E168B0E.2070100@gmail.com> <201107080702.58452.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <4E16B251.6080204@gmail.com> <4E16B548.5050105@gmail.com> <4E17B3C3.4010009@gmail.com> <4E187F60.9080400@gmail.com> <4E18ABC3.1090909@orlitzky.com> <4E18C082.4070209@gmail.com> <4E18C977.9070001@orlitzky.com> <4E18D5A7.8040309@gmail.com> <4E1971AA.20209@coolmail.se> <4E1A00BA.5090306@gmail.com> <20110710230550.3e7c9060@digimed.co.uk> <4E1A4374.2090707@gmail.com> <4E1A8420.1050908@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 49328a18eff9259e296d6051ae38489d Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Dale wrote: > >> Mark Knecht wrote: >> >>> DAle, >>> PLEASE look at bullet item #3 in this NVidia release: >>> >>> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-275.09.07-driver.html >>> >>> >>> >>> Fixed a bug that caused freezes and crashes when resizing windows in >>> KDE 4 with desktop effects enabled using X.Org X server version 1.10 >>> or later. >>> >>> >>> Sure sounds familiar to me... >>> >>> - Mark >>> >>> >>> >> Yea, that does sound familiar. Trying to recall who could have had that >> problem. Hmmmm. Oh, it was me !! lol This is my card info: >> >> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT200 [GeForce GT 220] >> (rev a2) >> >> Drivers: >> >> x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-270.41.19 >> >> That is the latest for my card that is in the tree. >> > No! It is not the latest. It's just what portage is offering you. The > link I sent you clearly (!?) stated that you need to be running the > latest 'Certified' driver revision 275.09.07 to get this fix. Just > because the Gentoo devs haven't marked it as stable does (to me) mean > that I should take their word for it. The company that makes the GPU > AND designed the driver says to upgrade, so in this case I do what > NVidia tells me. > > mark@c2stable ~ $ eix nvidia-drivers > [I] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers > Available versions: 96.43.19!s 173.14.28!s 173.14.30!s > (~)256.53!s 260.19.44!s 270.41.06!s (~)270.41.19!s (~)275.09.07!s > {acpi custom-cflags gtk kernel_linux multilib} > Installed versions: 275.09.07!s(10:21:39 AM 06/24/2011)(acpi gtk > kernel_linux multilib -custom-cflags) > Homepage: http://www.nvidia.com/ > Description: NVIDIA X11 driver and GLX libraries > > mark@c2stable ~ $ > > Do the right thing for your machine. Keep it up to date as per > portage, not downgrading to old Xorg stuff, and use the driver NVidia > tells you to use. > > Happy, happy. > > >> Now keep in mind, going >> back to the older xorg fixed the Konsole and resizing issue I had. So far, >> I'm not sure Firefox has its problem fixed. I'm going to try it here in a >> few. Just close everything I can, type in sync and open the thing and see >> if the smoke gets out. Oh, got to install it again too. Almost forgot >> that. >> >> It's funny in a way. I haven't been to the nvidia website in ages. I just >> sort of guess at a version, try it and see if it works. If not, try another >> one until I find one that does. There isn't that many in the tree. I never >> use the latest because I have never had that new of a card. :/ >> > New drivers AREN'T only for new cards. They are also for old cards > that develop new problems. I.e. - a resizing problem in KDE4 with a > new Xorg package. > > In this one case of NVidia hardware, if I'm going to use the closed > source driver then it seems to me the controlling authority of what to > use is NVidia and a Gentoo dev who doesn't have this problem. I > suspect if a Gentoo dev had the problem you're having this driver > would have been marked stable weeks ago! > > Cheers, > Mark > > Since I only use portage to install things, if it isn't in portage, I don't see it. Yea, I could most likely download and install it manually from Nvidia but I like the way portage does it. That's why I use Gentoo to begin with. Even when I used Mandrake, I didn't like installing things outside of what Mandrake installed itself. Nvidia was one of those but I don't think they put the drivers in their list of packages anyway. Sort of had no choice with them. I just wonder why no one has updated this in the tree yet? As for xorg, if going to a older version will fix something, then a older version it is. It's no different than me running something masked/keyworded to fix a issue. Heck, I have ran several packages that were masked/keyworded because it had a fix for some problem. I suspect most all of us have done that at some time or other. Also, I do know that drivers get updated even for older cards. They are always coming out with some fix, new feature or just a new bug. lol I upgrade them sometimes on my old rig with a FX-5200 card. It happens often enough. Dale :-) :-)