[gentoo-user] gcc and glibc. Which unstable to pick?

[gentoo-user] gcc and glibc. Which unstable to pick?

[Dale]

As the list knows, I been having random lock ups on my system.  I'm in 
the process of one last emerge -e world but I'm not holding my breath it 
will change anything.  So, I'm wanting to try a unstable version of both 
gcc and glibc.  This is the list available:

root@fireball / # equery list -p glibc
  * Searching for glibc ...
[-P-] [ ~] sys-libs/glibc-2.9_p20081201-r3:2.2
[-P-] [  ] sys-libs/glibc-2.10.1-r1:2.2
[-P-] [  ] sys-libs/glibc-2.11.3:2.2
[-P-] [ ~] sys-libs/glibc-2.12.1-r3:2.2
[IP-] [  ] sys-libs/glibc-2.12.2:2.2
[-P-] [ ~] sys-libs/glibc-2.13-r2:2.2
[-P-] [ ~] sys-libs/glibc-2.13-r3:2.2
[-P-] [ -] sys-libs/glibc-2.14:2.2
root@fireball / # equery list -p gcc
  * Searching for gcc ...
[-P-] [ -] sys-devel/gcc-2.95.3-r9:2.95
[-P-] [ -] sys-devel/gcc-2.95.3-r10:2.95
[-P-] [ -] sys-devel/gcc-3.1.1-r2:3.1
[-P-] [ -] sys-devel/gcc-3.2.2:3.2
[-P-] [ -] sys-devel/gcc-3.2.3-r4:3.2
[-P-] [ ~] sys-devel/gcc-3.3.6-r1:3.3
[-P-] [  ] sys-devel/gcc-3.4.6-r2:3.4
[-P-] [ -] sys-devel/gcc-4.0.4:4.0
[-P-] [  ] sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2:4.1
[-P-] [ ~] sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1:4.2
[-P-] [ ~] sys-devel/gcc-4.3.3-r2:4.3
[-P-] [  ] sys-devel/gcc-4.3.4:4.3
[-P-] [ ~] sys-devel/gcc-4.3.5:4.3
[-P-] [ ~] sys-devel/gcc-4.3.6:4.3
[-P-] [ ~] sys-devel/gcc-4.4.2:4.4
[-P-] [ ~] sys-devel/gcc-4.4.3-r3:4.4
[-P-] [  ] sys-devel/gcc-4.4.4-r2:4.4
[IP-] [  ] sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5:4.4
[-P-] [ ~] sys-devel/gcc-4.5.1-r1:4.5
[-P-] [ ~] sys-devel/gcc-4.5.2:4.5
[-P-] [M-] sys-devel/gcc-4.6.0:4.6
[-P-] [M-] sys-devel/gcc-4.6.1:4.6
root@fireball / #

I was thinking of running a older version of gcc first.  Just to see if 
that helps.  Is there a advantage to running a different version of 
glibc as well?  I'm keeping in mind that once I upgrade glibc, I'm sort 
of stuck.  I was looking at either gcc 4.4.4 and/or glibc 2.13-r3 as 
options.

Thoughts?

While I am at it, I tried searching for bugs on bgo.  I click the search 
link and select for it to search all bugs, closed as well.  When I type 
in glibc and crash then click search, all I ever get is the please stand 
by screen.  I never get a list of the hits.  I tried several times.  Is 
bgo having issues or do I have another issue to add to the table?

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc and glibc. Which unstable to pick?

[Alan McKinnon]

On Thursday 07 July 2011 16:01:27 Dale did opine thusly:
> As the list knows, I been having random lock ups on my system.  I'm
> in the process of one last emerge -e world but I'm not holding my
> breath it will change anything.  So, I'm wanting to try a unstable
> version of both gcc and glibc.  This is the list available:

gcc-4.5.2 works just fine here
glibc-2.13-r3 no problems


And you are not stuck once upgrading glibc. If stuff doesn't run, edit 
the magnificent version check in the ebuild and re-emerge it. It only 
causes problems if other stuff gets built against a newer glibc and 
you then want to downgrade




> 
> root@fireball / # equery list -p glibc
>   * Searching for glibc ...
> [-P-] [ ~] sys-libs/glibc-2.9_p20081201-r3:2.2
> [-P-] [  ] sys-libs/glibc-2.10.1-r1:2.2
> [-P-] [  ] sys-libs/glibc-2.11.3:2.2
> [-P-] [ ~] sys-libs/glibc-2.12.1-r3:2.2
> [IP-] [  ] sys-libs/glibc-2.12.2:2.2
> [-P-] [ ~] sys-libs/glibc-2.13-r2:2.2
> [-P-] [ ~] sys-libs/glibc-2.13-r3:2.2
> [-P-] [ -] sys-libs/glibc-2.14:2.2
> root@fireball / # equery list -p gcc
>   * Searching for gcc ...
> [-P-] [ -] sys-devel/gcc-2.95.3-r9:2.95
> [-P-] [ -] sys-devel/gcc-2.95.3-r10:2.95
> [-P-] [ -] sys-devel/gcc-3.1.1-r2:3.1
> [-P-] [ -] sys-devel/gcc-3.2.2:3.2
> [-P-] [ -] sys-devel/gcc-3.2.3-r4:3.2
> [-P-] [ ~] sys-devel/gcc-3.3.6-r1:3.3
> [-P-] [  ] sys-devel/gcc-3.4.6-r2:3.4
> [-P-] [ -] sys-devel/gcc-4.0.4:4.0
> [-P-] [  ] sys-devel/gcc-4.1.2:4.1
> [-P-] [ ~] sys-devel/gcc-4.2.4-r1:4.2
> [-P-] [ ~] sys-devel/gcc-4.3.3-r2:4.3
> [-P-] [  ] sys-devel/gcc-4.3.4:4.3
> [-P-] [ ~] sys-devel/gcc-4.3.5:4.3
> [-P-] [ ~] sys-devel/gcc-4.3.6:4.3
> [-P-] [ ~] sys-devel/gcc-4.4.2:4.4
> [-P-] [ ~] sys-devel/gcc-4.4.3-r3:4.4
> [-P-] [  ] sys-devel/gcc-4.4.4-r2:4.4
> [IP-] [  ] sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5:4.4
> [-P-] [ ~] sys-devel/gcc-4.5.1-r1:4.5
> [-P-] [ ~] sys-devel/gcc-4.5.2:4.5
> [-P-] [M-] sys-devel/gcc-4.6.0:4.6
> [-P-] [M-] sys-devel/gcc-4.6.1:4.6
> root@fireball / #
> 
> I was thinking of running a older version of gcc first.  Just to see
> if that helps.  Is there a advantage to running a different version
> of glibc as well?  I'm keeping in mind that once I upgrade glibc,
> I'm sort of stuck.  I was looking at either gcc 4.4.4 and/or glibc
> 2.13-r3 as options.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> While I am at it, I tried searching for bugs on bgo.  I click the
> search link and select for it to search all bugs, closed as well. 
> When I type in glibc and crash then click search, all I ever get is
> the please stand by screen.  I never get a list of the hits.  I
> tried several times.  Is bgo having issues or do I have another
> issue to add to the table?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)
-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc and glibc. Which unstable to pick?

[Mark Knecht]

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> As the list knows, I been having random lock ups on my system.  I'm in the
> process of one last emerge -e world but I'm not holding my breath it will
> change anything.  So, I'm wanting to try a unstable version of both gcc and
> glibc.

Do what you will but this seems a very radical step to take at this
point. It seems to me you are assuming there are bugs in gcc and glibc
that are both effecting you now and will be fixed in the new versions.
I'm not sure that logic really holds water.

Wouldn't you be possibly better off to learn to run gdb on Firefox and
look for problems in a more conventional way?

Did you manage to remove all plugins from Firefox and prove it's not a
Flash or Java issue?

- Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc and glibc. Which unstable to pick?

[Dale]

Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>  wrote:
>    
>> As the list knows, I been having random lock ups on my system.  I'm in the
>> process of one last emerge -e world but I'm not holding my breath it will
>> change anything.  So, I'm wanting to try a unstable version of both gcc and
>> glibc.
>>      
> Do what you will but this seems a very radical step to take at this
> point. It seems to me you are assuming there are bugs in gcc and glibc
> that are both effecting you now and will be fixed in the new versions.
> I'm not sure that logic really holds water.
>
> Wouldn't you be possibly better off to learn to run gdb on Firefox and
> look for problems in a more conventional way?
>
> Did you manage to remove all plugins from Firefox and prove it's not a
> Flash or Java issue?
>
> - Mark
>
>
>    

I don't think Konsole uses Flash or java.  I'm not sure how one relates 
to the other.  Whatever this is, it has Konsole and Firefox in common 
that I know of.  There are lots of programs that I have not even tried 
to run.  I don't want to just lock up my system unless I think I have a 
fix.  Hitting that reset button may just ruin a install and cause me all 
sorts of grief.

I do know this, I ran into something like this before and it was either 
gcc or glibc.  I'm pretty sure it was gcc.  Since this has a history of 
fixing things, I may as well try that to.  I may add that I did find 
where people were having problems with programs crashing when using the 
current glibc.  It may not be related to my problem but we don't know 
that either.

I just finished a emerge -e world and am going to see if KDE will run or 
lock up.  I'm hoping but not holding my breath.

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc and glibc. Which unstable to pick?

[justin]

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On 7/7/11 11:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Thursday 07 July 2011 16:01:27 Dale did opine thusly:
>> As the list knows, I been having random lock ups on my system.  I'm
>> in the process of one last emerge -e world but I'm not holding my
>> breath it will change anything.  So, I'm wanting to try a unstable
>> version of both gcc and glibc.  This is the list available:
> 
> gcc-4.5.2 works just fine here
> glibc-2.13-r3 no problems
> 

this has multilpe issues, which I hit myself. But there should be a
revbump soon which gets that fixed.

justin


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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc and glibc. Which unstable to pick?

[Dale]

justin wrote:
> On 7/7/11 11:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>    
>> On Thursday 07 July 2011 16:01:27 Dale did opine thusly:
>>      
>>> As the list knows, I been having random lock ups on my system.  I'm
>>> in the process of one last emerge -e world but I'm not holding my
>>> breath it will change anything.  So, I'm wanting to try a unstable
>>> version of both gcc and glibc.  This is the list available:
>>>        
>> gcc-4.5.2 works just fine here
>> glibc-2.13-r3 no problems
>>
>>      
> this has multilpe issues, which I hit myself. But there should be a
> revbump soon which gets that fixed.
>
> justin
>
>    

Is the issues worse than a hard lock up?

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc and glibc. Which unstable to pick?

[Alan McKinnon]

On Friday 08 July 2011 08:14:00 justin did opine thusly:
> On 7/7/11 11:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Thursday 07 July 2011 16:01:27 Dale did opine thusly:
> >> As the list knows, I been having random lock ups on my system.
> >>  I'm in the process of one last emerge -e world but I'm not
> >> holding my breath it will change anything.  So, I'm wanting
> >> to try a unstable
> > 
> >> version of both gcc and glibc.  This is the list available:
> > gcc-4.5.2 works just fine here
> > glibc-2.13-r3 no problems
> 
> this has multilpe issues, which I hit myself. But there should be a
> revbump soon which gets that fixed.

Are these issues documented somewhere?

I haven't seen any problems on either package on my stuff


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc and glibc. Which unstable to pick?

[Dale]

Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Friday 08 July 2011 08:14:00 justin did opine thusly:
>    
>> On 7/7/11 11:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>      
>>> On Thursday 07 July 2011 16:01:27 Dale did opine thusly:
>>>        
>>>> As the list knows, I been having random lock ups on my system.
>>>>   I'm in the process of one last emerge -e world but I'm not
>>>> holding my breath it will change anything.  So, I'm wanting
>>>> to try a unstable
>>>>          
>>>        
>>>> version of both gcc and glibc.  This is the list available:
>>>>          
>>> gcc-4.5.2 works just fine here
>>> glibc-2.13-r3 no problems
>>>        
>> this has multilpe issues, which I hit myself. But there should be a
>> revbump soon which gets that fixed.
>>      
> Are these issues documented somewhere?
>
> I haven't seen any problems on either package on my stuff
>
>
>    

Alan, while you got a eye open.  Can you try to do a search for all bugs 
related to konsole and glibc?  When I go to BGO's search and try to 
search for that on ALL bugs including closed ones, I never get anything 
but the "please stand by" screen or a blank screen.  It acts like it is 
searching but never returns anything.  I go here:

https://bugs.gentoo.org/query.cgi

Make sure you select ALL for the status.  I was wanting to see if there 
was any problems reported but fixed in some way.

I'm just curious if it is me or a website problem.

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc and glibc. Which unstable to pick?

[Alan McKinnon]

On Friday 08 July 2011 04:29:09 Dale did opine thusly:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Friday 08 July 2011 08:14:00 justin did opine thusly:
> >> On 7/7/11 11:14 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >>> On Thursday 07 July 2011 16:01:27 Dale did opine thusly:
> >>>> As the list knows, I been having random lock ups on my
> >>>> system.
> >>>> 
> >>>>   I'm in the process of one last emerge -e world but I'm
> >>>>   not
> >>>> 
> >>>> holding my breath it will change anything.  So, I'm
> >>>> wanting
> >>>> to try a unstable
> >>> 
> >>>> version of both gcc and glibc.  This is the list available:
> >>> gcc-4.5.2 works just fine here
> >>> glibc-2.13-r3 no problems
> >> 
> >> this has multilpe issues, which I hit myself. But there should
> >> be a revbump soon which gets that fixed.
> > 
> > Are these issues documented somewhere?
> > 
> > I haven't seen any problems on either package on my stuff
> 
> Alan, while you got a eye open.  Can you try to do a search for all
> bugs related to konsole and glibc?  When I go to BGO's search and
> try to search for that on ALL bugs including closed ones, I never
> get anything but the "please stand by" screen or a blank screen. 
> It acts like it is searching but never returns anything.  I go
> here:
> 
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/query.cgi
> 
> Make sure you select ALL for the status.  I was wanting to see if
> there was any problems reported but fixed in some way.
> 
> I'm just curious if it is me or a website problem.

I got hits:

https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specific&order=relevance%20desc&bug_status=__open__&content=ALL%20konsole%20glibc&list_id=275295


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc and glibc. Which unstable to pick?

[pk]

On 2011-07-08 11:29, Dale wrote:

> I'm just curious if it is me or a website problem.

I'm not Alan but...
konsole:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?order=Importance&short_desc=konsole&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=CONFIRMED&bug_status=IN_PROGRESS&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr

glibc (you didn't mention any specific version so...109 bugs):
https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?order=Importance&short_desc=glibc&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=CONFIRMED&bug_status=IN_PROGRESS&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr

PS. I always use the advanced version of BGO; not sure if there's any
difference between simple & advanced...

HTH

Best regards

Peter K