From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Qevk3-0003Iu-GP for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 21:04:12 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8415821C03D; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 21:01:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www01.badapple.net (www01.badapple.net [64.79.219.163]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE4921C03D for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 21:01:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (173-8-169-73-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [173.8.169.73]) (Authenticated sender: ramin@badapple.net) by www01.badapple.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D2B6B8446487 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 14:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E161EC3.8060808@badapple.net> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 14:01:55 -0700 From: kashani User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple Gentoo systems References: <4E15F993.1080901@badapple.net> <2206705.m0niYJH5nW@nazgul> In-Reply-To: <2206705.m0niYJH5nW@nazgul> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 094b0e677bdec746dfcd09feb2937315 On 7/7/2011 1:37 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Thursday 07 July 2011 11:23:15 kashani did opine thusly: >> On 7/2/2011 3:14 PM, Grant wrote: >>> After a frustrating experience with a Linksys WRT54GL, I've >>> decided to stick with Gentoo routers. This increases the >>> number of Gentoo systems I'm responsible for and they're >>> nearing double-digits. What can be done to make the management >>> of multiple Gentoo systems easier? I think identical hardware >>> in each system would help a lot but I'm not sure that's >>> practical. I need to put together a bunch of new workstations >>> and I'm thinking some sort of server/client arrangement with >>> the only Gentoo install being on the server could be >>> appropriate. >>> >>> - Grant >> >> You may want to look at something like a config management > system. >> I'm using Puppet these days, but Gentoo support isn't spectacular. >> It would be a bit complex to have Puppet install the packages with >> the correct USE flags. However you could use Puppet to manage all >> the text files and then manage the packages somewhat manually. > > Give chef a try. > > It overcomes a lot of the issue puppet ran into, and of course makes > new ones all of it's won, but by and large chef is more flexible. Too late. I've already put a year in with Puppet and have too much working code to switch. Also I'm not much of a programmer so I get a bit more out of the DSL though my templates are getting fairly fancy these days. For anyone else interested in what we're talking about, here's a fairly balanced and up to date link talking about some of the differences. http://redbluemagenta.com/2011/05/21/puppet-vs-chef/ kashani