From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QeaAY-0006c4-Qs for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 22:02:07 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C744F21C025; Wed, 6 Jul 2011 22:00:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gw0-f53.google.com (mail-gw0-f53.google.com [74.125.83.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E69821C025 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2011 22:00:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj20 with SMTP id 20so223466gwj.40 for ; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 15:00:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4TIae+ZPN8eqdm4Vye/p7fTnHAqUKLC7IDgcZE9W+18=; b=V+cM5/cQY7zrBJKG4nUh6aokB4qlBADy0tol6nOH6KMhJ7XCNPkIfjfHia1DGzAjfY bZyzMTZbHHqSXxATnPf32LW+Muypv6EkbauJq3ShqgcauvPWMvu6LPdeoBNtAuHLEROG O72/BZ/mPxVm3BeKqXm8mTEuD74Uko74JsW18= Received: by 10.151.149.4 with SMTP id b4mr299503ybo.365.1309989622015; Wed, 06 Jul 2011 15:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-98-95-129-33.jan.bellsouth.net [98.95.129.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 1sm5625057yhs.53.2011.07.06.15.00.20 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Jul 2011 15:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E14DAF3.7050908@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 17:00:19 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110705 Gentoo/2.0.14-r1 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups. References: <4E11EEF3.70804@gmail.com> <1402354.G0EMuDhieW@nazgul> <4E122A95.7060707@gmail.com> <4E1364B6.3090405@gmail.com> <4E1376E9.6010103@gmail.com> <4E1392D6.2090904@gmail.com> <4E14B72C.6080004@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: cf41b40926a5039add6ee433aa02c35e Mark Knecht wrote: > > If I had to guess I'd say, since this followed a power failure where > the machine was live and operating (if I've understood the thread > through a quick scan) that some file on disk has gotten corrupted and > it's that corruption that's causing the problem. You've checked > memory. Let's assume that te processor and MB weren't damaged by this > event. If that's the case - and unfortunately I don't know of any way > to ensure it hasn't as it requires one to have a bit-accurate image of > the machine before the power failure - there's probably no way to > eliminate this as a possibility short of an emerge -e @world. > > It's not where I'd start. I'd probably look for core dump files or > very carefully do experiment s trying to isolate exactly what part of > KDE is firing off the problem. re-emerging the NVidia driver is a > no-brainer as it takes no more than 1-2 minutes to test things. > Rebuilding the machine is certainly more involved. > > If you have lots of disk space you might rsync the whole machine to a > new partition to do the work, then using something other than KDE > which doesn't crash rebuild the copy from a chroot which leaves the > machine usable while the rebuild is going on. > > None of this sounds like fun... > > - Mark > > > I did something similar at least. I have two drives in here that are for my OS. I have a third that is for data, videos, audio stuff and documents. The data drive is a 750Gb. The old main OS drive is a 160Gb and the spare OS drive is a 250Gb. I downloaded a stage3 tarball. I then set up the spare OS drive and mounted the partitions basically following the docs. I then copied over /etc, disfiles and the world file. After that, I did a emerge -e world which installed everything that I had before. It also has a slightly newer kernel as well. So, after running my memtest this morning while I took a nap, I booted into the new install. I checked with the mount command to make sure I was in the new install too. I deleted EVERYTHING KDE in my home directory. After that, I logged into KDE. A box popped up that composite was disabled. It said I could hit shift alt F12 to enable. After I started Firefox, it locked up complete with my keyboard lights blinking again. What does Fluxbox use as opposed to KDE? Both use the Nvidia drivers right? I use KDM for my login screen and I think nvidia is loaded when it starts and it uses nvidia thereafter. So, if it was the driver, would it not mess up in Fluxbox too? What makes Fluxbox work and KDE fail? Could my video card be having issues? I may take the sides off and unplug replug everything and give it all a once over. Maybe just a bad connection or something. Maybe? If one of you guys were me, would you order a video card and try that? Keep in mind, I have surge protection inside the UPS on the wall side. I also have a surge protector strip that my modem, router, puter and monitor plugs into. It's kind of hard to imagine that a surge could make it through all that and not at least smell up the place a bit. I'm not saying it couldn't but just hard to imagine. I got surge protection coming out the ears here. Thoughts? Dale :-) :-)