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From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups.
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 17:00:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E14DAF3.7050908@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK2H+eex0H2u4P58VV+EVXPDTk5YWrqXYKDiz2_m-jqKa6ZO7g@mail.gmail.com>

Mark Knecht wrote:
>
> If I had to guess I'd say, since this followed a power failure where
> the machine was live and operating (if I've understood the thread
> through a quick scan) that some file on disk has gotten corrupted and
> it's that corruption that's causing the problem. You've checked
> memory. Let's assume that te processor and MB weren't damaged by this
> event. If that's the case - and unfortunately I don't know of any way
> to ensure it hasn't as it requires one to have a bit-accurate image of
> the machine before the power failure - there's probably no way to
> eliminate this as a possibility short of an emerge -e @world.
>
> It's not where I'd start. I'd probably look for core dump files or
> very carefully do experiment s trying to isolate exactly what part of
> KDE is firing off the problem. re-emerging the NVidia driver is a
> no-brainer as it takes no more than 1-2 minutes to test things.
> Rebuilding the machine is certainly more involved.
>
> If you have lots of disk space you might rsync the whole machine to a
> new partition to do the work, then using something other than KDE
> which doesn't crash rebuild the copy from a chroot which leaves the
> machine usable while the rebuild is going on.
>
> None of this sounds like fun...
>
> - Mark
>
>
>    

I did something similar at least.  I have two drives in here that are 
for my OS.  I have a third that is for data, videos, audio stuff and 
documents.  The data drive is a 750Gb.  The old main OS drive is a 160Gb 
and the spare OS drive is a 250Gb.  I downloaded a stage3 tarball.  I 
then set up the spare OS drive and mounted the partitions basically 
following the docs.  I then copied over /etc, disfiles and the world 
file.  After that, I did a emerge -e world which installed everything 
that I had before.  It also has a slightly newer kernel as well.

So, after running my memtest this morning while I took a nap, I booted 
into the new install.  I checked with the mount command to make sure I 
was in the new install too.  I deleted EVERYTHING KDE in my home 
directory.  After that, I logged into KDE.  A box popped up that 
composite was disabled.  It said I could hit shift alt F12 to enable.  
After I started Firefox, it locked up complete with my keyboard lights 
blinking again.

What does Fluxbox use as opposed to KDE?  Both use the Nvidia drivers 
right?  I use KDM for my login screen and I think nvidia is loaded when 
it starts and it uses nvidia thereafter.  So, if it was the driver, 
would it not mess up in Fluxbox too?   What makes Fluxbox work and KDE fail?

Could my video card be having issues?  I may take the sides off and 
unplug replug everything and give it all a once over.  Maybe just a bad 
connection or something.  Maybe?

If one of you guys were me, would you order a video card and try that?  
Keep in mind, I have surge protection inside the UPS on the wall side.  
I also have a surge protector strip that my modem, router, puter and 
monitor plugs into.  It's kind of hard to imagine that a surge could 
make it through all that and not at least smell up  the place a bit.  
I'm not saying it couldn't but just hard to imagine.  I got surge 
protection coming out the ears here.

Thoughts?

Dale

:-)  :-)



  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-06 22:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-04 16:48 [gentoo-user] KDE and HARD lock ups Dale
2011-07-04 17:12 ` Jesús J. Guerrero Botella
2011-07-04 18:56   ` Dale
2011-07-04 22:17     ` Jesús J. Guerrero Botella
2011-07-04 22:49       ` Dale
2011-07-05  6:58         ` Jesús J. Guerrero Botella
2011-07-05  7:12           ` Dale
2011-07-04 20:36   ` Alan McKinnon
2011-07-04 21:03     ` Dale
2011-07-05 19:23       ` Dale
2011-07-05 20:07         ` Paul Hartman
2011-07-05 20:41           ` Dale
2011-07-05 22:40             ` Dale
2011-07-05 23:07               ` Jesús J. Guerrero Botella
2011-07-05 23:09                 ` Jesús J. Guerrero Botella
2011-07-06  0:03                 ` Dale
2011-07-06 14:44                   ` Peter Humphrey
2011-07-06 14:57                     ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-06 19:27                 ` Dale
2011-07-06 19:51                   ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-06 22:00                     ` Dale [this message]
2011-07-06 23:46                       ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-07  2:41                         ` Dale
2011-07-07  3:13                           ` Dale
2011-07-07  4:01                             ` Dale
2011-07-07  6:53                               ` William Kenworthy
2011-07-07  7:21                                 ` Dale
2011-07-07 13:07                               ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-09  1:53                                 ` Dale
2011-07-09  8:15                                   ` William Kenworthy
2011-07-07  7:01                   ` Jesús J. Guerrero Botella
2011-07-07  7:29                     ` Dale
2011-07-07  8:44                       ` Dale
2011-07-06  1:52             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-07-06  4:16               ` Dale
2011-07-06  4:26                 ` Paul Hartman
2011-07-06  5:12                   ` Dale
2011-07-06  5:19                     ` Paul Hartman
2011-07-06  5:38                       ` Dale
2011-07-07 22:27                         ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2011-07-08  4:43                           ` Dale
2011-07-08  6:02                             ` Mick
2011-07-08  7:31                               ` Dale
2011-07-08  7:44                                 ` Dale
2011-07-09  1:49                                   ` [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics Dale
2011-07-09  7:45                                     ` Mick
2011-07-09  9:03                                       ` Dale
2011-07-09 11:29                                         ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-09 16:11                                           ` Dale
2011-07-09  9:20                                     ` András Csányi
2011-07-09 16:18                                       ` Dale
2011-07-09 17:31                                         ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-09 19:28                                         ` Michael Orlitzky
2011-07-09 20:56                                           ` Dale
2011-07-09 21:34                                             ` Michael Orlitzky
2011-07-09 22:26                                               ` Dale
2011-07-09 23:12                                                 ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-09 23:55                                                   ` Dale
2011-07-10  0:12                                                     ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-10  1:36                                                       ` Dale
2011-07-10  2:41                                                         ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-10  3:31                                                           ` Dale
2011-07-10  4:32                                                             ` Joshua Murphy
2011-07-10  6:46                                                               ` Dale
2011-07-10 11:09                                                                 ` Willie Wong
2011-07-10 18:49                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-10 19:40                                                       ` Dale
2011-07-10 23:10                                                         ` walt
2011-07-11  5:09                                                           ` Dale
2011-07-11  9:13                                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-11 16:42                                                           ` Alex Schuster
2011-07-11 20:56                                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-11 22:17                                                             ` walt
2011-07-11 22:33                                                               ` Dale
2011-07-10  9:32                                                 ` pk
2011-07-10 19:42                                                   ` Dale
2011-07-10 22:05                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-11  0:27                                                       ` Dale
2011-07-11  2:05                                                         ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-11  2:11                                                           ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-11  5:03                                                             ` Dale
2011-07-11  5:35                                                               ` Bill Kenworthy
2011-07-11  6:49                                                                 ` Dale
2011-07-11  7:21                                                                   ` Dale
2011-07-11  8:15                                                                     ` Jesús J. Guerrero Botella
2011-07-11 20:26                                                                       ` Dale
2011-07-14  5:31                                                                         ` Dale
2011-07-14  8:07                                                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-14  8:28                                                                             ` Dale
2011-07-14  9:09                                                                               ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-14 15:42                                                                                 ` Mick
2011-07-14 18:28                                                                               ` Daniel da Veiga
2011-07-14 13:52                                                                           ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-14 14:54                                                                             ` Willie Wong
2011-07-14 15:09                                                                               ` Dale
2011-07-14 15:39                                                                               ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-14 16:06                                                                                 ` Peter Humphrey
2011-07-14 19:01                                                                                   ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-11 10:11                                                                     ` William Kenworthy
2011-07-11  5:58                                                               ` Dale
2011-07-11 12:47                                                               ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-11 13:45                                                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-11 14:17                                                                   ` Michael Orlitzky
2011-07-11 15:12                                                                     ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-11 21:00                                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-11 21:32                                                                       ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-11 22:30                                                                         ` Dale
2011-07-11 23:14                                                                           ` Peter Humphrey
2011-07-11 23:29                                                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-11 15:11                                                                   ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-11 21:20                                                                 ` Dale
2011-07-11  9:15                                                         ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-11 21:30                                                           ` Dale
2011-07-11 23:48                                                             ` walt
2011-07-11 17:10                                                         ` Alex Schuster
2011-07-11 21:47                                                           ` Dale
2011-07-14 23:02                                                           ` Dale
2011-07-10 22:24                                                     ` Peter Humphrey
2011-07-11  0:49                                                       ` Dale
2011-07-09 17:16                                     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-07-09 18:42                                       ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-07-08  7:46                             ` [gentoo-user] Re: KDE and HARD lock ups Neil Bothwick
2011-07-08  9:19                               ` Dale
2011-07-08 11:16                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-08 16:13                                   ` Dale
2011-07-06  7:13                 ` [gentoo-user] " Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-07-06  7:27                   ` Dale
2011-07-06  7:35                     ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-06  8:08                       ` Dale
2011-07-06  8:53                         ` Dale
2011-07-06  9:12                           ` Urs Schutz
2011-07-06  9:38                         ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-06  9:36                       ` Peter Ruskin
2011-07-06  9:51                         ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-06 10:37                           ` Mick
2011-07-06 11:38                             ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-06 20:32                               ` Mick
2011-07-06 10:56                     ` Tanstaafl
2011-07-06  8:11               ` Alan McKinnon
2011-07-07 21:59                 ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2011-07-07 22:25                   ` Alan McKinnon
2011-07-09 10:34                   ` Sebastian Beßler
2011-07-05 23:04           ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2011-07-05 23:14             ` Paul Hartman
2011-07-05 23:49               ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-06  4:19                 ` Paul Hartman
2011-07-06  7:26                   ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-04 20:47 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
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     [not found] ` <haUYp-Uk-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <haWGR-3Pu-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <haZOq-z6-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
2011-07-05  0:46       ` Gregory Shearman
2011-07-05  2:48         ` Dale
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-07-07 22:39 Robin Atwood
2011-07-09  2:34 ` Dale

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