From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QaZBP-0003De-Fb for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 20:10:23 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E09821C1AD for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 20:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-iy0-f181.google.com (mail-iy0-f181.google.com [209.85.210.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E8CC1C1D8 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:46:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyf40 with SMTP id 40so4446259iyf.40 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 12:46:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=G9W7MlMZK8WRMu2Q1zfXi0aKSd/fQYy9tjB5TTOl/RI=; b=fr3DwB5GWaU8yT33FK7QHN1BN3iTu9wM8OEOyiNMcDL92jfjjNR9LhSoj7WC2Qw5A0 rOcZ1LQYkVt7me1PXQR9LHFuqfDB3icGMsRs66/uwv1RQ077HQs0KYrM8KBpXIvABVAP vZzmUKIANNaa1ap7dUlwdZjICptfSinGGs6ao= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JZu0gyMO9P0J0yG7GV/OdIbBMVmUjphMqQZHVlwsm+VLS9b/oK3smJ7LZIB+44+PRs 8gxzw2jwasPnWY1s3TQuYmVbPA7j006qObwLUKU66lmBRNH47ezIU1ygNh2UkNDTNvjJ AduFsfNV+D7DRxF7V+EPXdoHYQhPkllERiP64= Received: by 10.231.5.193 with SMTP id 1mr4227080ibw.28.1309031163660; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 12:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-65-0-120-31.jan.bellsouth.net [65.0.120.31]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm2143706ibc.25.2011.06.25.12.46.00 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 25 Jun 2011 12:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E063AF6.4090708@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 14:45:58 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110606 Gentoo/2.0.14-r1 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now? References: <4E0167C4.9080100@gmail.com> <4E05CEDC.6060006@gmail.com> <4E05D8AB.10403@gentoo.org> <2211928.F2exzk2evu@nazgul> In-Reply-To: <2211928.F2exzk2evu@nazgul> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: c3eeef8c7c238c686565052e49c77d73 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Feedback from the consumer end of the producer-consumer link :-) > > The motivation is fine and well, it didn't quite work out, we call > this a "bug". > > The only real mistake was trying to slipstream it in without > notification or warning. devs all agree we should never do this, but > it is so ... tempting. > > I've made the same mistake myself many many times, and each time it > came back and bit me hard :-) > > > What I like is the speed it got corrected. People that don't sync often most likely didn't even know it ever changed. Another like, a dev that at least reads some of this stuff on -user. It's a good way to get feedback. If you change something and it doesn't get mentioned, most likely all is well. If it does get mentioned, may want to rethink the change. Lessons learned the hard way are the ones we remember the longest. ;-) Dale :-) :-)