From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QRV9G-0007nn-PY for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 31 May 2011 20:02:43 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9AEF41C106; Tue, 31 May 2011 20:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gy0-f181.google.com (mail-gy0-f181.google.com [209.85.160.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643EF1C106 for ; Tue, 31 May 2011 20:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyh4 with SMTP id 4so2706263gyh.40 for ; Tue, 31 May 2011 13:00:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sqByWOhcK+YjLOqv8k5ssTlaSKn+7ny/c0Ohiji0Zd0=; b=Z959OSrYDSmq8mbTHSnd9FMXPknua3g27+ETjUNtIf5h6Mv4gTd3uYZMusMHRWRW/u T+t1h4tUPLKjtMxr0iH4iGwV5Z9yFUARImhf/OBvc2UhgUN0hJzcVddSkmXLbr9kq0Zv au+RdJIa73PT6YPzKgqfJTt2Sv416uPRdSHbI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DctnshgZL2J7doSK6RFXZuWW+sfZVw95M+luWwV4/Z7WFcBWUkS6RN/D7bdp6zFQt8 Y+V9sALGAVIq9CxjMvoCaZER/o8SEu7FU+FOepH7hrsTrYzjjkAoBrzj1M/7H/YuoIyb SHNn4t+k45SA+JPRbk27VtHuk4fbZpBKvn7hw= Received: by 10.101.141.1 with SMTP id t1mr3962362ann.87.1306872031810; Tue, 31 May 2011 13:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-98-95-108-236.jan.bellsouth.net [98.95.108.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x12sm243140anf.9.2011.05.31.13.00.30 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 31 May 2011 13:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DE548DC.4020205@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 15:00:28 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110517 Gentoo/2.0.14 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] kde update References: <881505824.2229441306773917747.JavaMail.root@spooler5n-g27.priv.proxad.net> <201105312107.21745.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201105312107.21745.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: c421ce6ca62838457d8bfb0a7fd638d2 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Apparently, though unproven, at 17:27 on Tuesday 31 May 2011, Mark Knecht did > opine thusly: > > >> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Paul Hartman >> >> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Alain DIDIERJEAN >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Trying to update from kde4.5 to kde4.6 >>>> >>> I find that it is easier to unmerge old version :4.5 KDE, then emerge >>> the new version :4.6. Upgrade always seems to be a mess like that. >>> >> Probably there's no real problem but I think in my recent machines if >> I've chosen the KDE profile and try something like emerge -Cp kde-meta >> then there are lots of warning messages about how I'm removing parts >> of @system. It's unlikely (in my mind anyway) that anything would be >> removed that stops one from doing the 4.6 emerge, but if one goes this >> way they should look very carefully at what's getting taken out just >> to make sure. >> > You must have something badly wrong with your @system. kde-meta depends on: > > RDEPEND=" > $(add_kdebase_dep kate) > $(add_kdebase_dep kdeadmin-meta) > $(add_kdebase_dep kdeartwork-meta) > $(add_kdebase_dep kdebase-meta) > $(add_kdebase_dep kdeedu-meta) > $(add_kdebase_dep kdegames-meta) > $(add_kdebase_dep kdegraphics-meta) > $(add_kdebase_dep kdemultimedia-meta) > $(add_kdebase_dep kdenetwork-meta) > $(add_kdebase_dep kdeplasma-addons) > $(add_kdebase_dep kdetoys-meta) > $(add_kdebase_dep kdeutils-meta) > accessibility? ( $(add_kdebase_dep kdeaccessibility-meta) ) > nls? ( $(add_kdebase_dep kde-l10n) ) > sdk? ( > $(add_kdebase_dep kdebindings-meta) > $(add_kdebase_dep kdesdk-meta) > $(add_kdebase_dep kdewebdev-meta) > ) > semantic-desktop? ( || ( > ( $(add_kdebase_dep kdepim-meta '' 4.5.93) ) > ( $(add_kdebase_dep kdepim-meta '' 4.4.9) ) > ) ) > " > > A few extra packages and a lot of other meta packages. "emerge -Cp" will > remove only that one package, it won;t even remove the deps. > > > Does anyone remember the discussion I had about kde packages being in the system set when doing a emerge -e system? If I for example unmerge kde-meta then run --depclean, I bet I would get the error about system packages being removed. It may be because of USE flags but this was what I was concerned about during the last discussion. Having GUI packages, especially KDE, included in the system set, even if because of USE flags, is going to lead to problems at some point. Or maybe I am reading all this wrong? Dale :-) :-)