[gentoo-user] openrc update : locale variables are gone

[gentoo-user] openrc update : locale variables are gone

[Alain DIDIERJEAN]

As the subject line says, all variables pertaining to locale are gone (LANG & LINGUAS not set, LC_* set to POSIX").
In which file are they supposed to be set these days ?

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        Alain DIDIERJEAN      Puisque ces mystères nous dépassent
                           Feignons d'en être l'organisateur

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc update : locale variables are gone

[Willie Wong]

On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 03:41:37PM +0200, Alain DIDIERJEAN wrote:
> As the subject line says, all variables pertaining to locale are gone (LANG & LINGUAS not set, LC_* set to POSIX").
> In which file are they supposed to be set these days ?
> 

/etc/env.d/02locale

W
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Willie W. Wong                                     wwong@math.princeton.edu
Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire 
         et vice versa   ~~~  I. Newton

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc update : locale variables are gone

[Florian Philipp]

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Am 14.05.2011 16:09, schrieb Willie Wong:
> On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 03:41:37PM +0200, Alain DIDIERJEAN wrote:
>> As the subject line says, all variables pertaining to locale are gone (LANG & LINGUAS not set, LC_* set to POSIX").
>> In which file are they supposed to be set these days ?
>>
> 
> /etc/env.d/02locale
> 
> W

Don't forget to run `env-update && source /etc/profile`.


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Re: [gentoo-user] openrc update : locale variables are gone

[Mick]

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On Saturday 14 May 2011 15:26:38 Florian Philipp wrote:
> Am 14.05.2011 16:09, schrieb Willie Wong:
> > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 03:41:37PM +0200, Alain DIDIERJEAN wrote:
> >> As the subject line says, all variables pertaining to locale are gone
> >> (LANG & LINGUAS not set, LC_* set to POSIX"). In which file are they
> >> supposed to be set these days ?
> > 
> > /etc/env.d/02locale
> > 
> > W
> 
> Don't forget to run `env-update && source /etc/profile`.

Hmm ... not sure if the Window Manager/Display Environment sticks its finger 
in my locale!

On a console logged in as a plain user I get exactly what I have in my 
/etc/env.d/02locale.  The story is the same when I su to root in a terminal 
within X.  However, when I am in a terminal in X as a plain user I get *every* 
locale variable as  en_GB.UTF-8.

My /etc/env.d/02locale shows:

LANG="en_GB.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="POSIX"
LC_COLLATE="C"

Why would this be so?  The Language setting in my WM (e17) is set as 'System 
Default' and at the bottom is shows "System Locale: Locale".
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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] openrc update : locale variables are gone

[Alain DIDIERJEAN]

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Objet: Re: [gentoo-user] openrc update : locale variables are gone

On Saturday 14 May 2011 15:26:38 Florian Philipp wrote:
> Am 14.05.2011 16:09, schrieb Willie Wong:
> > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 03:41:37PM +0200, Alain DIDIERJEAN wrote:
> >> As the subject line says, all variables pertaining to locale are gone
> >> (LANG & LINGUAS not set, LC_* set to POSIX"). In which file are they
> >> supposed to be set these days ?
> > 
> > /etc/env.d/02locale
> > 
> > W
> 
> Don't forget to run `env-update && source /etc/profile`.

Hmm ... not sure if the Window Manager/Display Environment sticks its finger 
in my locale!

On a console logged in as a plain user I get exactly what I have in my 
/etc/env.d/02locale.  The story is the same when I su to root in a terminal 
within X.  However, when I am in a terminal in X as a plain user I get *every* 
locale variable as  en_GB.UTF-8.

My /etc/env.d/02locale shows:

LANG="en_GB.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="POSIX"
LC_COLLATE="C"

Why would this be so?  The Language setting in my WM (e17) is set as 'System 
Default' and at the bottom is shows "System Locale: Locale".
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Following the openrc update in gentoo amd64, all locale variables suddenly vanished. I created a /etc/env.d/02locale file which includes LANG="fr_FR.UTF-8".
lyx loads with english menus. It's only after exporting LANG from .bashrc that I can launch it from a shell with its french menus. To achieve the same effect from KDE menu, I have to set the launch command to LANG="fr_FR.UTF-8" lyx.
My preference would be a global setting (as it used to be), as all users on my machine are french.
I have the same problem with most of the apps.
Any comments ?

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        Alain DIDIERJEAN      Puisque ces mystères nous dépassent
                           Feignons d'en être l'organisateur

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc update : locale variables are gone

[Mick]

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On Sunday 15 May 2011 09:43:39 Alain DIDIERJEAN wrote:

> Following the openrc update in gentoo amd64, all locale variables suddenly
> vanished. I created a /etc/env.d/02locale file which includes
> LANG="fr_FR.UTF-8". lyx loads with english menus. It's only after
> exporting LANG from .bashrc that I can launch it from a shell with its
> french menus. To achieve the same effect from KDE menu, I have to set the
> launch command to LANG="fr_FR.UTF-8" lyx. My preference would be a global
> setting (as it used to be), as all users on my machine are french. I have
> the same problem with most of the apps.
> Any comments ?

Alain, as I said in my previous post the /etc/env.d/02locale settings do not 
seem to transfer across to user terminals when run in X.  I do not run KDE on 
this machine to see what KDE locale settings are doing ... have you set it to 
use the French language?

Either way, I have noticed that although locale from a user terminal in X 
shows everything as en_GB.UTF-8:

$ locale
LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE="en_GB.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="en_GB.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="en_GB.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="en_GB.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="en_GB.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="en_GB.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="en_GB.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="en_GB.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="en_GB.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_GB.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_GB.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_GB.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=en_GB.UTF-8

without me having set it so, the same terminal shows different environment 
variables which correctly coincide with the /etc/env.d/02locale settings:

$ echo $LANG
en_GB.UTF-8

$ echo $LC_TIME
POSIX

$ echo $LC_COLLATE
C

The only odd is the LC_ALL - which I have not set up in my ~/.bashrc or 
02locale files!

$ echo $LC_ALL
en_GB.UTF-8

Perhaps my WM decided to take the LANG variable which happens to be 
en_GB.UTF-8 and apply it to LC_ALL?  The solution for me was to set in 
~/.bashrc:

export LC_ALL=""

Hope this works for your setup too.
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Regards,
Mick

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