From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QKWyI-0003Tr-SK for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 12 May 2011 14:34:35 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A8EAC1C0DA; Thu, 12 May 2011 14:33:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vx0-f181.google.com (mail-vx0-f181.google.com [209.85.220.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5001C0DA for ; Thu, 12 May 2011 14:33:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vxb39 with SMTP id 39so1433811vxb.40 for ; Thu, 12 May 2011 07:33:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bmvX2hSlrBjotc4TJK3nh0UwP6Jgt4f8ioZWgVOb5mc=; b=UD77BDeJQXPlPDFUzae4Q46BM2O00ihd40lXSPj+jCm7HxzBEi7Q6DMwZ276yPMeJx anWIarhIjXjWiajMbOJd3k4NnatiyJyx3OvcGStOXuYdZSFt0QN00iI5LP+5jrQBgrzt ypsqfDKf7m3BGa72u0VicCaDHmIYqdH1lh8IU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eN9H9lv9eK1TPhESytQmnlouLx+iaJEcEItv+3srhjKboDJaZ4O2BuaE31c7SOOXLJ GZwEdA/gSS029gjuoAb0PYTA6V+KHV2pL6QcS+Zs45ytTJ0zXCRy10hEm+Mw5mayRFpY COx/WdsAiJRZ2zed9rtLgxXbaHbqYhma6qmMM= Received: by 10.52.179.103 with SMTP id df7mr394803vdc.148.1305210789891; Thu, 12 May 2011 07:33:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-98-95-130-19.jan.bellsouth.net [98.95.130.19]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l10sm149577vcs.42.2011.05.12.07.33.07 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 12 May 2011 07:33:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DCBEFA2.5000806@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 09:33:06 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110501 Gentoo/2.0.14 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone? References: <20110512140029.GA31187@gaurahari> In-Reply-To: <20110512140029.GA31187@gaurahari> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 8d812bdad454ab74c9037e2471a25ad1 Indi wrote: > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 03:50:02PM +0200, Dale wrote: > >> Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >>> They can do any damn thing they want to with their code. They also you owe >>> support for it in exactly the same amount you paid for it. Which is to say >>> "nothing". >>> >>> It's not a question of "should", it's only a question of "Dale would prefer it >>> if" >>> >>> >>> >> So, you think most of the KDE users were happy to see support for KDE3 >> being dropped, especially considering KDE4 was much less than stable? >> For me and a lot of others, it was worthless at first. It was good eye >> candy but not functional even for the little I do. >> >> Yea, it is what I want but it is also what MANY others wanted. Some of >> those people switched to something else or still use KDE3. It's their >> code, but if people stop using it, what is it really worth? I'm sure >> KDE wants to gain users not piss them off and make them go away. >> >> For me, if KDE does such a lousy switch over again, I'll be using >> something else. Given the posts I read where others have already done >> so, I doubt I would be alone. I'm all for second chances. We all learn >> the hard way sometimes. I'm just hoping KDE did. >> >> > I had 8 users on kde before 3 was deprecated in 2009. > Now I have zero. It was a harrowing time, switching > everyone to gnome, finding that is not so hot, finally > putting them on xfce. If xfce gets a wild hair and changes > my plan is to dumb down the fluxbox or openbox > configs I have for my own use, add some scripting and call > it a day. > > No-one disputes the freedom of the devs to do anything > they wish with their code. > It's just like anything else in life: you're free to do > anything you want. Just know the consequences before > you act or you may get burned. > > Yep. A lot of KDE users was upset. The thing is, if they had got out just a few more releases, it would have been much better. They were improving KDE4 pretty fast but not fast enough. Since KDE3 was fairly complete, all it needed was a little love here and there. They didn't have to reinvent the wheel every month to keep KDE3 running. It can't be to bad since some users got together and are still maintaining KDE3 tho I don't know how good that is working out since I don't have it installed here anymore. Dale :-) :-)