From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QKM1K-0007uQ-R4 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 12 May 2011 02:52:58 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 444901C00A; Thu, 12 May 2011 02:51:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from basement.kutulu.org (187.250.102.97.cfl.res.rr.com [97.102.250.187]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083501C00A for ; Thu, 12 May 2011 02:51:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (basement.kutulu.org [127.0.0.1]) by basement.kutulu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C17747D8025 for ; Wed, 11 May 2011 18:51:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at kutulu.org Received: from basement.kutulu.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (basement.kutulu.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yEnQ3soGQutA for ; Wed, 11 May 2011 18:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.69.4] (wombat.kutulu.org [192.168.69.4]) by basement.kutulu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1447D8024 for ; Wed, 11 May 2011 18:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4DCB4B11.4030405@kutulu.org> Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 22:50:57 -0400 From: Mike Edenfield User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone? References: <4DC9B435.9010308@gmail.com> <4DC9BF0A.6040800@wonkology.org> <4DC9C5F0.4000303@gmail.com> <20110511003835.71388717@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> <4DC9CF35.7010503@gmail.com> <4DCA821F.8050904@gmail.com> <4DCA91D1.50505@gmail.com> <4DCAAE6E.9030809@gmail.com> <4DCABF2D.1090307@gmail.com> <4DCAF95A.5060807@kutulu.org> <4DCB12F3.2020007@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4DCB12F3.2020007@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: e60df8fdec9583f9c05fec0b0b77e366 On 5/11/2011 6:51 PM, Dale wrote: > Does this look more better? > > root@fireball / # locale > LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF8" > LC_NAME="en_US.UTF8" > LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF8" > LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF8" > LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF8" > LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF8" > LC_PAPER, is that like paper in my printer? What the heck > does it want my phone number, address and other stuff for? > Some of that I get but some is just plain nosy. O_O These are all proposed, but ultimately rejected, POSIX extensions to hold other standard, region-specific settings. glibc grabbed onto them when the latest POSIX was still in draft status and implemented them. LC_PAPER is one of a few places that holds the default paper sizes (I think Debian has an /etc/papersize or some such). It's kinda silly, since "en_US" isn't a paper size, but roughly speaking, en_US = "8.5x11 letter" and everything else = "A4". The others are for tracking: proper name format (e.g. family name first or last); postal address format; telephone number format (local, international, etc); units of measurement (imperial vs. metric); and the standards that govern the rest of the formats. Support for them is pretty sketchy and you can probably safely ignore them :) --Mike