[gentoo-user] You have no world file

[gentoo-user] You have no world file

[Dan Cowsill]

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Hi list,

I've been having a strange issue every so often.  I'll do a world update
(emerge -uDNav, etc) and that will proceed nicely, installing new packages
and suchlike.  I'll then do a little bit of the old emerge -pcv to check for
dangling packages and I will get the following:

!!! You have no world file.
!!! Proceeding is likely to break your installation.

Portage will then politely inform me that it needs to remove 190 packages
and I thank FSM I added -p.

So!  Googling that little tidbit produced nothing meaningful.  What's the
story?  Gremlins?

Thanks guys,
D

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Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file

[Michael Orlitzky]

On 04/20/2011 11:35 AM, Dan Cowsill wrote:
> Hi list,
> 
> I've been having a strange issue every so often.  I'll do a world update
> (emerge -uDNav, etc) and that will proceed nicely, installing new
> packages and suchlike.  I'll then do a little bit of the old emerge -pcv
> to check for dangling packages and I will get the following:
> 
> !!! You have no world file.
> !!! Proceeding is likely to break your installation.
> 
> Portage will then politely inform me that it needs to remove 190
> packages and I thank FSM I added -p.
> 
> So!  Googling that little tidbit produced nothing meaningful.  What's
> the story?  Gremlins?
> 

Basically. Do you have a world file (/var/lib/portage/world)? If not,
why not? Is /var or one of its subdirectories mounted separately? Hard
drive going bad? Do you see gremlins anywhere?

Permissions on /var/lib/portage should be drwxrws--- root:portage

/var/lib/portage/world should be -rw-r--r-- root:portage

Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file

[Dan Cowsill]

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On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Michael Orlitzky <michael@orlitzky.com>wrote:

> On 04/20/2011 11:35 AM, Dan Cowsill wrote:
> > Hi list,
> >
> > I've been having a strange issue every so often.  I'll do a world update
> > (emerge -uDNav, etc) and that will proceed nicely, installing new
> > packages and suchlike.  I'll then do a little bit of the old emerge -pcv
> > to check for dangling packages and I will get the following:
> >
> > !!! You have no world file.
> > !!! Proceeding is likely to break your installation.
> >
> > Portage will then politely inform me that it needs to remove 190
> > packages and I thank FSM I added -p.
> >
> > So!  Googling that little tidbit produced nothing meaningful.  What's
> > the story?  Gremlins?
> >
>
> Basically. Do you have a world file (/var/lib/portage/world)? If not,
> why not? Is /var or one of its subdirectories mounted separately? Hard
> drive going bad? Do you see gremlins anywhere?
>
> Permissions on /var/lib/portage should be drwxrws--- root:portage
>
> /var/lib/portage/world should be -rw-r--r-- root:portage
>
>
File's there, permissions are correctly set, the filesystem isn't mounted
separately and according to smartctl, the hard drive is doing quite well.
 I'm at a loss!

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Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file

[Dan Cowsill]

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On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Dan Cowsill <danthehat@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Michael Orlitzky <michael@orlitzky.com>wrote:
>
>> On 04/20/2011 11:35 AM, Dan Cowsill wrote:
>> > Hi list,
>> >
>> > I've been having a strange issue every so often.  I'll do a world update
>> > (emerge -uDNav, etc) and that will proceed nicely, installing new
>> > packages and suchlike.  I'll then do a little bit of the old emerge -pcv
>> > to check for dangling packages and I will get the following:
>> >
>> > !!! You have no world file.
>> > !!! Proceeding is likely to break your installation.
>> >
>> > Portage will then politely inform me that it needs to remove 190
>> > packages and I thank FSM I added -p.
>> >
>> > So!  Googling that little tidbit produced nothing meaningful.  What's
>> > the story?  Gremlins?
>> >
>>
>> Basically. Do you have a world file (/var/lib/portage/world)? If not,
>> why not? Is /var or one of its subdirectories mounted separately? Hard
>> drive going bad? Do you see gremlins anywhere?
>>
>> Permissions on /var/lib/portage should be drwxrws--- root:portage
>>
>> /var/lib/portage/world should be -rw-r--r-- root:portage
>>
>>
For the sake of brevity, here's emerge --info

Portage 2.1.9.42 (default/linux/x86/10.0, gcc-4.4.5, glibc-2.11.3-r0,
2.6.36-gentoo-r8 i686)
=================================================================
System uname: Linux-2.6.36-gentoo-r8-i686-Pentium-R-_Dual-Core_CPU_E5200_@
_2.50GHz-with-gentoo-1.12.14
Timestamp of tree: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 07:00:01 +0000
ccache version 2.4 [enabled]
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sys-kernel/linux-headers: 2.6.36.1
virtual/os-headers:  0
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
ACCEPT_LICENSE="* -@EULA PUEL"
CBUILD="i486-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-O2 -mtune=i686 -pipe"
CHOST="i486-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/share/gnupg/qualified.txt /var/bind"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d
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/etc/php/cgi-php5.3/ext-active/ /etc/php/cli-php5.3/ext-active/
/etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo"
CXXFLAGS="-O2 -mtune=i686 -pipe"
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Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file

[Daniel Wagener]

On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:15:12 -0700
Dan Cowsill <danthehat@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Michael Orlitzky
> <michael@orlitzky.com>wrote:
> 
> > On 04/20/2011 11:35 AM, Dan Cowsill wrote:
> > > Hi list,
> > >
> > > I've been having a strange issue every so often.  I'll do a world
> > > update (emerge -uDNav, etc) and that will proceed nicely,
> > > installing new packages and suchlike.  I'll then do a little bit
> > > of the old emerge -pcv to check for dangling packages and I will
> > > get the following:
> > >
> > > !!! You have no world file.
> > > !!! Proceeding is likely to break your installation.
> > >
> > > Portage will then politely inform me that it needs to remove 190
> > > packages and I thank FSM I added -p.
> > >
> > > So!  Googling that little tidbit produced nothing meaningful.
> > > What's the story?  Gremlins?
> > >
> >
> > Basically. Do you have a world file (/var/lib/portage/world)? If
> > not, why not? Is /var or one of its subdirectories mounted
> > separately? Hard drive going bad? Do you see gremlins anywhere?
> >
> > Permissions on /var/lib/portage should be drwxrws--- root:portage
> >
> > /var/lib/portage/world should be -rw-r--r-- root:portage
> >
> >
> File's there, permissions are correctly set, the filesystem isn't
> mounted separately and according to smartctl, the hard drive is doing
> quite well. I'm at a loss!

Have you ever looked at the size world or maybe even into it?

Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file

[Dan Cowsill]

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On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Daniel Wagener <stelf@gmx.net> wrote:
>
>
> Have you ever looked at the size world or maybe even into it?
>
>
World file contains a list of the packages I've installed.  Nothing new
there.  It's about 1.5kb in size.

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Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file

[Michael Orlitzky]

On 04/20/2011 12:15 PM, Dan Cowsill wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Michael Orlitzky <michael@orlitzky.com
> <mailto:michael@orlitzky.com>> wrote:
> 
>     On 04/20/2011 11:35 AM, Dan Cowsill wrote:
>     > Hi list,
>     >
>     > I've been having a strange issue every so often.  I'll do a world
>     update
>     > (emerge -uDNav, etc) and that will proceed nicely, installing new
>     > packages and suchlike.  I'll then do a little bit of the old
>     emerge -pcv
>     > to check for dangling packages and I will get the following:
>     >
>     > !!! You have no world file.
>     > !!! Proceeding is likely to break your installation.
>     >
>     > Portage will then politely inform me that it needs to remove 190
>     > packages and I thank FSM I added -p.
>     >
>     > So!  Googling that little tidbit produced nothing meaningful.  What's
>     > the story?  Gremlins?
>     >
> 
>     Basically. Do you have a world file (/var/lib/portage/world)? If not,
>     why not? Is /var or one of its subdirectories mounted separately? Hard
>     drive going bad? Do you see gremlins anywhere?
> 
>     Permissions on /var/lib/portage should be drwxrws--- root:portage
> 
>     /var/lib/portage/world should be -rw-r--r-- root:portage
> 
> 
> File's there, permissions are correctly set, the filesystem isn't
> mounted separately and according to smartctl, the hard drive is doing
> quite well.  I'm at a loss!

You can try introducing trolls to fight the gremlins. If the smell gets
too strong, orcs will keep the trolls in check. Gold starts
disappearing? Dragons should do the trick. When you run out of
princesses... try memtest.

Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file

[Pandu Poluan]

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:19, Michael Orlitzky <michael@orlitzky.com> wrote:
>
> On 04/20/2011 12:15 PM, Dan Cowsill wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Michael Orlitzky <michael@orlitzky.com
> > <mailto:michael@orlitzky.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     On 04/20/2011 11:35 AM, Dan Cowsill wrote:
> >     > Hi list,
> >     >
> >     > I've been having a strange issue every so often.  I'll do a world
> >     update
> >     > (emerge -uDNav, etc) and that will proceed nicely, installing new
> >     > packages and suchlike.  I'll then do a little bit of the old
> >     emerge -pcv
> >     > to check for dangling packages and I will get the following:
> >     >
> >     > !!! You have no world file.
> >     > !!! Proceeding is likely to break your installation.
> >     >
> >     > Portage will then politely inform me that it needs to remove 190
> >     > packages and I thank FSM I added -p.
> >     >
> >     > So!  Googling that little tidbit produced nothing meaningful.  What's
> >     > the story?  Gremlins?
> >     >
> >
> >     Basically. Do you have a world file (/var/lib/portage/world)? If not,
> >     why not? Is /var or one of its subdirectories mounted separately? Hard
> >     drive going bad? Do you see gremlins anywhere?
> >
> >     Permissions on /var/lib/portage should be drwxrws--- root:portage
> >
> >     /var/lib/portage/world should be -rw-r--r-- root:portage
> >
> >
> > File's there, permissions are correctly set, the filesystem isn't
> > mounted separately and according to smartctl, the hard drive is doing
> > quite well.  I'm at a loss!
>
> You can try introducing trolls to fight the gremlins. If the smell gets
> too strong, orcs will keep the trolls in check. Gold starts
> disappearing? Dragons should do the trick. When you run out of
> princesses... try memtest.
>

ROFL

Rgds,
--
Pandu E Poluan
~ IT Optimizer ~
Visit my Blog: http://pepoluan.posterous.com

Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file

[Dan Cowsill]

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On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Michael Orlitzky <michael@orlitzky.com>wrote:

> On 04/20/2011 12:15 PM, Dan Cowsill wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Michael Orlitzky <michael@orlitzky.com
> > <mailto:michael@orlitzky.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     On 04/20/2011 11:35 AM, Dan Cowsill wrote:
> >     > Hi list,
> >     >
> >     > I've been having a strange issue every so often.  I'll do a world
> >     update
> >     > (emerge -uDNav, etc) and that will proceed nicely, installing new
> >     > packages and suchlike.  I'll then do a little bit of the old
> >     emerge -pcv
> >     > to check for dangling packages and I will get the following:
> >     >
> >     > !!! You have no world file.
> >     > !!! Proceeding is likely to break your installation.
> >     >
> >     > Portage will then politely inform me that it needs to remove 190
> >     > packages and I thank FSM I added -p.
> >     >
> >     > So!  Googling that little tidbit produced nothing meaningful.
>  What's
> >     > the story?  Gremlins?
> >     >
> >
> >     Basically. Do you have a world file (/var/lib/portage/world)? If not,
> >     why not? Is /var or one of its subdirectories mounted separately?
> Hard
> >     drive going bad? Do you see gremlins anywhere?
> >
> >     Permissions on /var/lib/portage should be drwxrws--- root:portage
> >
> >     /var/lib/portage/world should be -rw-r--r-- root:portage
> >
> >
> > File's there, permissions are correctly set, the filesystem isn't
> > mounted separately and according to smartctl, the hard drive is doing
> > quite well.  I'm at a loss!
>
> You can try introducing trolls to fight the gremlins. If the smell gets
> too strong, orcs will keep the trolls in check. Gold starts
> disappearing? Dragons should do the trick. When you run out of
> princesses... try memtest.
>
>
Why I love this list in one thread.

Anyway, just an update on the situation.  As far as I can tell, this 'you
have no world file' error only shows up when i'm doing a --depclean.  Also,
it is intermittent.  Right now, -pcv works just fine and reports the correct
number of packages to be removed (zero).  I'm not sure what breaks this, or
if it will be broken in the future.

At this point, I'm not terribly worried about the whole thing, but I am
rather curious.

Thanks guys,
D

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Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file

[Michael Orlitzky]

On 04/26/11 10:31, Dan Cowsill wrote:
> 
> Why I love this list in one thread.
> 
> Anyway, just an update on the situation.  As far as I can tell, this
> 'you have no world file' error only shows up when i'm doing a
> --depclean.  Also, it is intermittent.  Right now, -pcv works just fine
> and reports the correct number of packages to be removed (zero).  I'm
> not sure what breaks this, or if it will be broken in the future.
> 
> At this point, I'm not terribly worried about the whole thing, but I am
> rather curious.
> 

Well, the "You have no world" message only shows up in one place.

/usr/lib/portage/pym/_emerge/actions.py:

  psets = root_config.setconfig.psets
  ...
  selected_set = psets['selected']
  ...
  if not selected_set:
  	writemsg_level("!!! You have no world file.\n",
		       level=logging.WARNING, noiselevel=-1)


The 'psets' variable gets set in /usr/lib/portage/pym/_emerge/main.py:

  setconfig.psets['selected'] =
	WorldSelectedSet(root_config.settings['EROOT'])

and that WorldSelectedSet class is defined in,

  /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage/_sets/files.py


If you *really* want to know what's going on, you could throw some debug
statements in main.py whenever the 'psets' variable gets set. That way
you can at least see which file it's looking for.

I'm not a doctor but it's probably perfectly safe.

Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file

[Dale]

Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>
> I'm not a doctor but it's probably perfectly safe.
>
>    

I'd copy my world file to my root directory just in case tho.  At least 
you got a starting point if something did get froggy.

That's just me tho.  We all know how weird I am.  lol

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file

[Alex Schuster]

Dan Cowsill writes:

> I've been having a strange issue every so often.  I'll do a world update
> (emerge -uDNav, etc) and that will proceed nicely, installing new
> packages and suchlike.  I'll then do a little bit of the old emerge -pcv
> to check for dangling packages and I will get the following:
> 
> !!! You have no world file.
> !!! Proceeding is likely to break your installation.
> 
> Portage will then politely inform me that it needs to remove 190 packages
> and I thank FSM I added -p.
> 
> So!  Googling that little tidbit produced nothing meaningful.  What's the
> story?  Gremlins?

Stupid question maybe, but does /var/lib/portage/world exist? If not, emerge 
-uDNav world would not complain and do a system update only.
Does eix -Iu show lots of packages you thought a wold update should have 
updated?
In case you lost the file, the regenworld script is supposed to restore it. 
But I don't know how well this works.

	Wonko

Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file

[Indi]

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 07:00:01PM +0200, Dale wrote:
> Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> >
> > I'm not a doctor but it's probably perfectly safe.
> >
> >    
> 
> I'd copy my world file to my root directory just in case tho.  At least 
> you got a starting point if something did get froggy.
> 
> That's just me tho.  We all know how weird I am.  lol
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)

I always use rsync to back up my entire system after updating and 
keep 3 updates back, so when anything goes wrong I can just restore 
the bit that went wrong or restore the whole system. 
How's that for paranoid?
Murphy's taught me well...

-- 
If only my nterface to the time-space continuum could be unix-like... With vim keybindings, cron, and everything!

Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file

[Dale]

Indi wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 07:00:01PM +0200, Dale wrote:
>    
>> Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>>      
>>> I'm not a doctor but it's probably perfectly safe.
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>> I'd copy my world file to my root directory just in case tho.  At least
>> you got a starting point if something did get froggy.
>>
>> That's just me tho.  We all know how weird I am.  lol
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>>      
> I always use rsync to back up my entire system after updating and
> keep 3 updates back, so when anything goes wrong I can just restore
> the bit that went wrong or restore the whole system.
> How's that for paranoid?
> Murphy's taught me well...
>
>    

He is a great teacher tho.  We seem to remember his lessons.  I think he 
should be Professor Murphy myself.  We need more like him but maybe more 
preventative.  ;-)

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] You have no world file

[Alexey Mishustin]

>On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 07:00:01PM +0200, Dale wrote:
>> Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm not a doctor but it's probably perfectly safe.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I'd copy my world file to my root directory just in case tho.  At least
>> you got a starting point if something did get froggy.
>>
>> That's just me tho.  We all know how weird I am.  lol
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>
>I always use rsync to back up my entire system after updating and
>keep 3 updates back, so when anything goes wrong I can just restore
>the bit that went wrong or restore the whole system.
>How's that for paranoid?
>Murphy's taught me well...

Heh, I don't think that it's paranoid, I think it's normal. I always
use rsnapshot to back up entire system before updating and keep 10
updates back :-)

--
Regards,
Alex