From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Q7pxH-0003Dk-SW for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 14:13:04 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F2C521C069; Thu, 7 Apr 2011 14:11:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yi0-f53.google.com (mail-yi0-f53.google.com [209.85.218.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0E31C069 for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2011 14:11:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yia25 with SMTP id 25so1510892yia.40 for ; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 07:11:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oIy5dp89tW2tJZwma35Ndn37j+cFFFkZggqU0qiFzlk=; b=tzxYxt7EICohvVmHPUOJZsLjtBZpUVh7yDNFtRkXRPB6Pd5FUlr65rUc8n37R8APS7 QToTdLmggphBo0tn1Ivmg4ZzkZvx8G6GvozK+20pLa+eodfYOrrppqMvVZKe91WqJeH9 VEOcx0gU6416tnXyEzfOVMTx10BrUxTdq49x4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IkVuRiWuc/mn9Xasbj7FXC79e9o4svAsu1Kr6v/1SO8GMSqim7+5d6M3hHxvKSx7sB DPVfm4AGoFD9hOxLJbKWOdZIfmpoz94pnr+hxHJ4dPB5ZQv1I0bO/8lJqa8Jp/Ar38rh fhZQSB4or57PMthvZBKntSes5FYaOhAiH9irg= Received: by 10.150.244.4 with SMTP id r4mr806659ybh.256.1302185498155; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 07:11:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-0-118-199.jan.bellsouth.net [65.0.118.199]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w19sm1232090ybe.10.2011.04.07.07.11.36 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 07 Apr 2011 07:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4D9DC617.5000109@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 09:11:35 -0500 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.18) Gecko/20110325 Gentoo/2.0.13 SeaMonkey/2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] LVM for data drives but not the OS References: <4D9D9071.2050504@gmail.com> <20110407143143.7c7dd0ee@digimed.co.uk> <20110407134112.A74B327AC@data.antarean.org> <20110407135216.EB93927AC@data.antarean.org> In-Reply-To: <20110407135216.EB93927AC@data.antarean.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 03a38281a0e21e68894cceb61636750e Joost Roeleveld wrote: > On Thursday 07 April 2011 15:41:00 Joost Roeleveld wrote: > >> On Thursday 07 April 2011 14:31:43 Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 15:21:33 +0200, Joost Roeleveld wrote: >>> >>>> I think Dale will probably succeed in breaking it :) >>>> >>>> Dale, this comment isn't meant as an insult. I honestly think you >>>> would >>>> be perfect for some QA or Testing job :) >>>> >>> But not on any project you wanted to finish on time ;-) >>> >> LOL :) >> Seriously, if all the Open Source developers would make the software >> reliable enough to pass his testing methods, there wouldn't be any grounds >> for discussion :) >> It would just work, always.... >> >> -- >> Joost >> >> PS. I actually enjoy having people on the list with different levels and >> types of experience. I think I probably learn more stuff via questions from >> so-called "beginners" then from the "old-timers" ;) >> > Actually, thinking about it. > Dale, please do try what Neil suggested. Preferably also document what you do > so we have a few test cases :) > > -- > Joost > > > I did this many years ago. When I built my very first rig, I installed Mandriva. Don't shoot me, I hadn't heard of Gentoo yet. I only knew about Redhat and Mandriva at the time. Anyway, I had one heck of a time installing the nvidia drivers. Lots of people had issues where their GUI wouldn't come back up when they installed the drivers. So, since I was a "fool" at the time, I made notes and such as to how I did mine. When it worked, I did a howto on it from a "fools" point of view. I put it on about three different sites. LQ, JL and one other one. It had a HUGE amount of views. If followed, it worked. I think me explaining from a beginners perspective helped a lot of people, plus I tried to keep it simple, like me. lol I think some of the reason I haven't grasped LVM is that it is somewhat complicated and it is explained by folks that know the nuts and bolts of it. It's like explaining Gentoo Linux to a windoze user who has never seen Linux or even knows what a kernel is. I'm still looking up howtos in hope of having a light bulb moment. I'll have one, it's just a matter of when. Alex, I saw your post. I read it a couple times already and am trying to grasp it before replying. It has a lot of good info. May take me a bit. Dale :-) :-)