From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-121389-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1Q7oZ6-0000P0-UB for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 12:44:01 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 586EBE055D; Thu, 7 Apr 2011 12:41:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gy0-f181.google.com (mail-gy0-f181.google.com [209.85.160.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D29BE055D for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 7 Apr 2011 12:41:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyh4 with SMTP id 4so1438425gyh.40 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 05:41:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=q7yZRcdsJvWNI3H+2oFy0iWbTLbCqvfo7McxH2lmYP0=; b=SDsQRxB1atnTrrB8xh/QFnDZ57tDtBc8wUa22zEdOuf9NyuoxKa9nW+8RRKjNXtzWX qlCvBBif6bYbW7/X2snTKfyl1XT4sTtnP8zBL6aNmTp5UzbaIXEga5QF2Fy0vHIrc+lO tIyJ7FWNCqZ5oQM3WzrjTz5/36u/r0zjvlUw4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kBmnO+o/xiXs9ZNsfkT4Rx4O9JIVGGFiBsFre7Aza4th+enF7EQszBIFgTPus/d01u k7kJpeM3hinATLZet8CabPTsJzANh4Nq0K1O0foYEtTlvNVvar0h3BG9TEn64Os2fzsS PkwApmjutNWTU1c+9EQmYL21iHB/S89ZoVJ+M= Received: by 10.91.67.3 with SMTP id u3mr727867agk.86.1302180114166; Thu, 07 Apr 2011 05:41:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-0-118-199.jan.bellsouth.net [65.0.118.199]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r8sm1802839ane.19.2011.04.07.05.41.52 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 07 Apr 2011 05:41:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4D9DB10F.20806@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 07:41:51 -0500 From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.18) Gecko/20110325 Gentoo/2.0.13 SeaMonkey/2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] LVM for data drives but not the OS References: <gEUDo-72k-19@gated-at.bofh.it> <gEVzt-b2-39@gated-at.bofh.it> <gEVJ8-ou-21@gated-at.bofh.it> <20110407121530.GA29890@pacific.net.au> In-Reply-To: <20110407121530.GA29890@pacific.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 77563dacc5f47c0169ccc98699c9e40e Gregory Shearman wrote: > In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: > >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 05:22:41 -0500, Dale wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I want to do it this way because I don't trust LVM enough to put my OS >>>> on. Just my personal opinion on LVM. >>>> >>>> >>> This doesn't make sense. Your OS can be reinstalled in an hour or two, >>> your photos etc. are irreplaceable. >>> >>> >>> >> It does to me. I want to keep things so that if there is a problem, I >> know how to fix it or can at least get to a point that I can get help on >> it. If LVM fails and I can't boot, then I loose everything on LVM >> because I would have to reinstall from scratch. If it fails just on my >> data stuff, I can get help and fix it because I can still boot up and >> get to my email program. Also, I have the important stuff backed up to >> DVD. I would only loose things that I can download again. I would just >> rather avoid that and I'm sure AT&T would agree. That's a lot of >> downloading. >> > I have all my partitions on LVM except the boot partition. I've used LVM > for more years than I could count and have *never* had a failure related > to LVM. > > I backup my machines to an external drive (2 backup drives actually) > using rsync. > > If I have a failure and cannot boot then I just put in my Gentoo Minimal > CD (which has all the LVM tools available) and I can fix the damage. If > the damage isn't fixable then I can just copy over the backups. > > LVM snapshots make live backups a breeze. Backups are always in a > consistent state and I've tested them and they *work*. > > If you know how to do that, then that works. Right now, I have no experience with LVM. All I know is what I have read which is about as clear as mud. ;-) Dale :-) :-) P. S. I wonder why this reply was not threaded with the rest? I see this happen sometimes with other threads. Always been curious about that.