From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1PtM9t-0005cd-3z for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 15:34:13 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B7EF71C0EF for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 15:34:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.213.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824B11C0B5 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 15:24:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxm8 with SMTP id 8so1705109yxm.40 for ; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 07:24:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uMnurtOb9OH85EzYffAWUpAoxpxziBBUSqEMQ8jsyLY=; b=ug0mjPUBBcKm9K7OtZCe2vUF9iW3Xrbo+3c30kdi1R7b3AJr2/ECy7GH0vj2RMBV+f p/f7shS5M8ufvuUbM/kLjzQuRU3KdQg+94qEz1fdvOXzmUljOTP2sIN1yrDa03WmrNr5 O6IhY4DKYSZe0x7VR7UlPUFe2gPMAqXqNMf7k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=O8CLmNSxAveBnEsc1BPEdfT8uFMePSvQi60nxxluawknlW3hAXZg5weHOUmAryU8zn FlEE2OK9ry2J0UkFKYcWhAIEEJRgILIidV6v6xmqRAYlPjWkZurCRyC73Uf8uqjj9lrh vQ8iW/vvVNzEnLiaABLINxvfO91IWKOgkBTvI= Received: by 10.100.37.4 with SMTP id k4mr1461409ank.176.1298733860951; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 07:24:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-0-94-193.jan.bellsouth.net [65.0.94.193]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b11sm2323543ana.38.2011.02.26.07.24.19 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 26 Feb 2011 07:24:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D691B22.8000300@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:24:18 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20110225 Gentoo/2.0.11 SeaMonkey/2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set? References: <20110223122538.428a246b@digimed.co.uk> <4D652E4C.6010206@gmail.com> <20110224020850.GA13228@waltdnes.org> <4D664FC8.7050405@gmail.com> <4D665352.8070209@darkmetatron.de> <4D66570A.3030506@gmail.com> <20110224145551.2a749647@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> <4D667792.6040805@gmail.com> <20110224161218.27a679a0@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> <4D669691.4000209@gmail.com> <20110225010803.GA15423@waltdnes.org> <4D687D33.9030308@gmail.com> <20110226144321.7d15b243@digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20110226144321.7d15b243@digimed.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: f8be8edf7e7afa052e5de790c82724d6 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 22:10:27 -0600, Dale wrote: > > >> Not exactly. I'm saying I don't think X stuff should be in the system >> set regardless of USE flags. >> > There is no X stuff in @system. what you are seeing is that some > dependencies of @system have X in their IUSE, so pull in X, but that > doesn't make X part of @system, nor make it a requirement for your > computer to run. > > You have set the X flag, by choosing a desktop profile, so why do you > object to X programs being installed? > > I see your point but that isn't what I have been talking about. When I run emerge -e system, it pulls in a bunch of X stuff including KDE. Yea, it is because of USE flags but that didn't used to be the case. If I recall correctly, my system set and all its dependencies used to be 147 packages. Now it is over 400 packages which includes things that have nothing to do with booting or running portage. I don't object to having X stuff installed, I just don't think it should be pulled into the system set. When I do a emerge -e system, it should be only stuff that is related to booting, running portage and such, not GUI stuff. If this continues to grow, the system set is going to catch up with the world set. Dale :-) :-)