From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1PsdgF-0003k3-2K for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:04:39 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 79D511C017 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:04:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vw0-f53.google.com (mail-vw0-f53.google.com [209.85.212.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF3E1C00F for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:23:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws8 with SMTP id 8so689454vws.40 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:23:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=lWPSYcCYFCuVyZtTyZf97nGfyEM3ccYfCc3uxnntR/w=; b=Zbq0pmnEcVPyYBoiSGeXkQ6anIUyoODt5GO/3Y017uPw/Lev0czx5T+CzVJbT2hCWD tDgntzu/042ow9vWRBWJHbFMTX/wKWBzrOg5EsEpwLacuaW5VGKK/7skUBKpIA49oK0P 0gOHTbeJ1bH+X2HOjBcBnO7LAVTQesjlY4cyo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vVaN/evbtkbPc2R2K1mjzvHZ8uzoZ7SfygEllOl49QP60PFHRF0p6EPaNVFB8UYmQn G850FhCqI4IPUEx4GEXmXpiBJwx6D9Wpop+ivUvEm8KmYFkYsvhfwWGgj4wLwXPzA1S6 4O9ITHQXfWZAOqZj4qhu+TPzLTmIKMhYdHwnw= Received: by 10.52.167.1 with SMTP id zk1mr1775627vdb.186.1298560917464; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:21:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-0-93-174.jan.bellsouth.net [65.0.93.174]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r20sm365380vcf.10.2011.02.24.07.21.55 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:21:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D667792.6040805@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:21:54 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20110217 Gentoo/2.0.11 SeaMonkey/2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set? References: <4D648CDC.1040900@gmail.com> <20110223092905.29f9269b@digimed.co.uk> <4D64F3EF.5020501@gmail.com> <20110223122538.428a246b@digimed.co.uk> <4D652E4C.6010206@gmail.com> <20110224020850.GA13228@waltdnes.org> <4D664FC8.7050405@gmail.com> <4D665352.8070209@darkmetatron.de> <4D66570A.3030506@gmail.com> <20110224145551.2a749647@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20110224145551.2a749647@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 7a5ef093cc48fc78d81ef8733c1e8457 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:03:06 -0600, Dale wrote: > > >> I just wonder if the devs have noticed how much this has grown when >> packages with X flags are included in the system set?. Would Gnome do >> the same? What about other GUI's? >> > What does it matter? They are only dependencies of @system, but they will > also be dependencies of @world, because you have emerged kde-meta, so > either way they would be on your system. > > There is nothing wrong with your system, it is doing exactly what you > told it to with your USE flags, and the kde flag is not the culprit > anyway as emerge -ep @system doesn't bring in any KDE stuff here. > > I was always under the impression that @system was supposed to be a limited set of packages to build, including dependencies. For me, if I have a issue, I usually start with emerge -e system to see if it helps. Since there is some KDE stuff in there, that makes it build packages that I most likely don't need to be rebuilt. To me, KDE is not a system package. It is doing what it is told but it is also doing things that it didn't use to do even when told the same as it is being told now. It wasn't to long ago that system was about 150 packages and didn't take that long to recompile. Now it is over 400. If this continues, the difference between system and world is going to be small. It may not be broke but it seems the system set is growing pretty quick. Dale :-) :-)