From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Pkmd3-0000Nh-5F for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 00:00:53 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 32044E07DD; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 23:59:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yx0-f181.google.com (mail-yx0-f181.google.com [209.85.213.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD69E07DD for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2011 23:59:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yxd39 with SMTP id 39so365318yxd.40 for ; Wed, 02 Feb 2011 15:59:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1H0RmNLQCT2rdpMp6vF82X3S2Pvhb0rf+OqF3Kqcq+M=; b=lM291POu6F3LPVoYRhYrllJ34iKH6i9KbHLvfCO+i1+oib5LKB0+rL5EVInK6pk/cz 983AjLJnpdmq02xz6XFnMSWI3w3Y1koLFiVrHs/kmtkpVtCwTBUi3wmci6/aAbdBiffC q7cdDohQFhej1dzbJa3lt6NekkZ2fRtr3qct4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GGu5qJxFVWIkBxuImQb6N2vlYcx4b1lJWVAsqI/wI8YBZQQPGHfHW1YZUq0iPmkjfi FkwR1DUQsA3CAOK0HUIVpjELlP8DQ/rler1b2AcY4pCcayNNB7NKrWpv8dYrCxTuyFXa calNKmNSYWYE4pPT1L3uAOpy0llCd+QSaPm7c= Received: by 10.236.95.50 with SMTP id o38mr4012702yhf.42.1296691149172; Wed, 02 Feb 2011 15:59:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.5] (adsl-0-95-40.jan.bellsouth.net [65.0.95.40]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f13sm105788yhf.33.2011.02.02.15.59.07 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 02 Feb 2011 15:59:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D49EFCA.6090707@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 17:59:06 -0600 From: Dale User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20110201 Gentoo/2.0.11 SeaMonkey/2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Avoiding HAL References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 8eeee2fda7120574e2e3a8ac30792569 Brian Waters wrote: > Hi there. I recently took a few months off from Gentoo to try Ubuntu > (I heard it "just works", and that is a Good Thing) only to find that > I'd much rather be back on Gentoo again. (The fact that Ubuntu ships > with PulseAudio means that sound it basically broken out of the box, > and I'm excited for Xfce 4.8.) > > It's been a few months since I've been around, and I'd like to know if > HAL has been fully deprecated yet. I'd like to avoid using it if at > all possible, since that seems to be the way of the future. So I'm > wondering what versions of udev and X server (and any other packages, > dbus maybe?) I need to unmask in order to get rid of the HAL > dependency. > > Thanks a lot! > > - BW > > > I use KDE here but with KDE 4.6, hal is gone. I use xorg 1.9 and no hal there. If nothing in xfce doesn't need it, then I think it is gone. All this is on amd64. I'm in the process of updating my x86 rig so I could answer for it in a day or so. Give me a poke if you need a report. ;-) Keep in mind, there are still a few packages that you CAN enable hal on. They are disabled here and still work fine as far as I know. I haven't burned a CD/DVD yet but k3b does see the drive and all. I would think it would work. That reminds me, I need to update some backups. o_O Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-)