From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SWViM-0006j2-CT for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 21 May 2012 16:44:10 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B816BE0C97; Mon, 21 May 2012 16:43:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (mercury.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.61]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA4DE0C87 for ; Mon, 21 May 2012 16:41:50 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,632,1330905600"; d="scan'208";a="871818150" Received: from 213-152-39-89.dsl.eclipse.net.uk (HELO compaq.stroller.uk.eu.org) ([213.152.39.89]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 21 May 2012 17:41:49 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [192.168.1.100]) by compaq.stroller.uk.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67DEEA9CC4 for ; Mon, 21 May 2012 17:40:10 +0100 (BST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] ogg/mp3 volume From: Stroller In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 17:41:43 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4D41DB14-3922-4D24-BB1E-A96FA01E67B3@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> References: <4FB789E2.5050604@wht.com.au> <20120519141906.GA31574@badass.gateway.2wire.net> <20120521004438.GA30264@badass.gateway.2wire.net> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Archives-Salt: f6a831c2-3ca5-47bf-8952-5d6a2e58b7f2 X-Archives-Hash: 628189e3a91c1d53cc2d9341e1290a36 On 21 May 2012, at 02:07, Michael Mol wrote: >>> ... >>> All digital Led Zep releases (i.e. including all CDs) are = notoriously poorly remastered, with excessive gain applied. >>>=20 >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war >>>=20 >>> So far they have deteriorated with each remastering / re-release. >>>=20 >>> Huge threads on the Steve Hoffman forums discussing this, if you = want to cork sniff. >>=20 >> I can attest to this - Led Zep II - awful. An older disk, not even a >> remaster. I can only play it at moderate levels - it loses all it's = dynamic >> range at higher levels. A big disappointment. >=20 > Dipping only slightly further offtopic, are they still pressing vinyl? > I believe there are a number of tools for automatically splitting and > transcoding audio input from a vinyl player. MoFi are doing some lovely releases - I've bought a handful of their = (expensive) SACDs, but they do vinyl, too. Looks like they use very good = quality materials. =20 The lads on the Steve Hoffman forums seemed to be generally saying that = the best Led Zep CDs are the very early ones - I think these were = released even before the 1990 boxed set [1] - and that these are very = cheap in the USA (but I think you have to search and find them = secondhand). Yet they also refer to some Japanese releases, implying = these are the ones they refer to. Not only may finding a decent version = be a chore, but so is understanding what to find! Anyway, to answer your question: the thread I read was primarily = concerned with CD releases, but yeah, a couple of those guys stated = their vinyl copies were *much* better.=20 Stroller. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led_Zeppelin_Boxed_Set=